Yeah. To some degree every woman is participating in and profiting of the system which we suffer under.
At the same time, any man coming from a poor part of the third world could say something similar about me. "You were born with lots of money (compared to me) but all you did with it was try to improve your own lot in life and the lot of the ones close to you. Meanwhile, I was born into a complete shithole. How is that fair? How can you think of yourself as a good person while just leaving the world as is, just because its innate unfairness happened to be in your favor?" I could try to argue a bunch of stuff, I'm quite good at arguing. But in the end, there is some core truth to what that person would be saying. I didn't do all I could (not even close) to make the world a better place for the people less fortunate than me. So, that puts a limit to how mad I can get at womEn for failing in a similar way.
I'm not actually trying to put some kind of a moral obligation on foids to make us men's lives "better". It's the moral obligation that society have put on men to not fight fire with fire. Because somehow men's physical advantage is 'unfair' to foids while theirs is not to men. To anyone wondering, I'm not doing some rape advocacy. Not only it morally revolts me, also in practice, it'd breed more violence.
It's not like I feel any desire to forgive them. But to change society for the better, men will have to get some women on their side. And that requires being able to cooperate with them, even if you still feel a strong hatred deep down.
YES! You're right. There's a solid distinction between humans being 'shitty' and foids being exploitative of men the way they are. That could be a whole other conversation.
It's not like I feel any desire to forgive them. But to change society for the better, men will have to get some women on their side. And that requires being able to cooperate with them, even if you still feel a strong hatred deep down.
I doubt it. MRAs have been trying for years now. The only foid-support that has fetched is in the form of foid-grifters. Like, ffs, it's so bad that advocates of Father's Rights are actually labelled misogynists. At some point, you need to use force (or fight fire with fire) and shame those bystander and coward foids who let the lives of boys and men in their lives go down to gutter in this oppressive gynocracy. These bystander foids, who benefit from the 'dirty works' (outward misandry) of radfems, have already internalized, using pseudo evo-psychology, which is largely a scummy excuse, that helping men = disadvantageous to foids.
And, on a personal note, many of the people I suffered most under in my live were actually men. While the people who at least tried to help me when I was getting bullied as a kid/teen were mostly girls/women. So, I have experienced some of their good sides as well in my life.
I also have received some forms of goodwill and help from foids in the past. Even their hypocrisy and selfishness can be beneficial to men. There was this one example where I was being pretty charitable to a foid in the exam hall. But as soon as others tried to swarm me (most weren't doing well with the exam paper), she shut me up. I knew it was hypocritical of her, but she also did it to protect me. It got me feeling incredibly fuzzy. That being said, imo, the cost isn't worth the crumbs of their empathy, affection, and whatnot.
I'm not quite surprised about bad treatment from men. There's this sort of an idolization of asshole-like behaviors in west amongst men. USA have their chads and jocks; the English have their shithousery and tribalism culture in football. Aussies used to be the most distrustful pricks on the field in Cricket. That's just the observation from my exposure to western media and western sports culture. I could be wrong.
Anyway, the point being, men can be taught to be more warm-hearted to each other with adjustments to the culture they grow up in. Lack of foid presence also helps massively.
