CONTACTING ALL GYMCELS: What would you do?

[AnApparentMyth]

So, gymcelling is one of my main copes. As of now, I'm like 153-156lbs at 5'8. I think I'm around 17-20% bf. I've been lifting for like 5 months now. And, one of my main goals is to get really lean, like 10-12% bf type of lean. But, I also don't want to just be skinny. I want to have a good muscular physique. I know that if I needed or wanted to get lean, I need to slim down a few lbs at like 1lb per week with 2k calories. But, I also want to get stronger in the muscles itself. Like getting my bench press up to 200lbs. I know that you can get muscles with a cut, but I also know that it isn't really advised since it can halt progress in the gains department. I have also heard that you shouldn't really do anything until at least a year in, that way you can establish a nice base. I don't mind staying at my weight (maintenance) for a while and THEN getting lean. So, what's more important? Getting some nice gains in? Or, just going straight for a lean cut 5 months in?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Bump cause gym

 

[Grodd]

I don't go gym

 

[AnApparentMyth]

I don't go gym

Thank you Grodd

 

[Karakol96]

you should get more muscle first

 

[AnApparentMyth]

you should get more muscle first

A good bet, I'm assuming you mean like maintenance then?

 

[4sez]

never cut

 

[kaijicel]

the thing is this will depend alot, alot about if you know how to diet properly, and have good recovery + a decent gym routine

 

[AnApparentMyth]

never cut

Never ever? Why?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

the thing is this will depend alot, alot about if you know how to diet properly, and have good recovery + a decent gym routine

Dieting isn't the hardest thing afaik. Like, I use cronometer for tracking. I just do 4x full-body at home. I'm assuming you meant this more so if you know what you're doing the risks are outward by the benefits type of thing?

 

[4sez]

Never ever? Why?

don't cut until you're 1 yr in

 

[Karakol96]

Never ever? Why?

i wouldnt do it either. to 10-12% i mean. youll most likely be more tired and itll be hard to gain muscle. 14-15% is lean already and you feel good and look bigger with clothes on

 

[AnApparentMyth]

don't cut until you're 1 yr in

Oh okay, that makes more sense. Thank you for your input m8

 

[AnApparentMyth]

i wouldnt do it either. to 10-12% i mean. youll most likely be more tired and itll be hard to gain muscle. 14-15% is lean already and you feel good and look bigger with clothes on

Have you ever been to 10-12%? I'm saying it more so that at that point, a six pack will appear even though that's controlled with genetics. If you lose enough bodyfat but gain enough muscle, wouldn't it look the same as the opposite at 15%?

 

[kaijicel]

Dieting isn't the hardest thing afaik. Like, I use cronometer for tracking. I just do 4x full-body at home. I'm assuming you meant this more so if you know what you're doing the risks are outward by the benefits type of thing?

diet can be simple yes, but also an easy thing to do wrong
cronometer is just keeping track of macro's and total kcal and what you ate? thats very handy indeed
4x fullbody, so how do you have that split up?

no what i mean is, a cut is less forgiving, on a bulk you can do 1 of these wrong or maybe even 2, but your diet will help you out so much its gonna hinder you less.

when you get lean, you have to assumingly cut foods, mostly carbs, so you will just feel worse in general, especially like recovery wise and workout performance wise

 

[Justanotherbloke]

I don't go gym

No gym for the face

It´s all over

 

[AnApparentMyth]

diet can be simple yes, but also an easy thing to do wrong
cronometer is just keeping track of macro's and total kcal and what you ate? thats very handy indeed
4x fullbody, so how do you have that split up?

no what i mean is, a cut is less forgiving, on a bulk you can do 1 of these wrong or maybe even 2, but your diet will help you out so much its gonna hinder you less.

when you get lean, you have to assumingly cut foods, mostly carbs, so you will just feel worse in general, especially like recovery wise and workout performance wise

It's an online routine I found, it's a long video but basically it's only dumbbells and a barbell, for now. You probably know the drill, compounds with some isolation's after the compound. 6-12 reps for me, 3 sets. It has worked, and I have increased my overall weights. But, it's a long video. If you wanna see it, let me know. And yeah, the cronometer is keeping track of EVERYTHING. ALL micronutrients too. It's insane.

That's true. I actually dirty bulked so hard up to 150lbs from 130lbs. In like 3 months, I gained 20lbs. IDK if I should be mad or just move on. But my diet at the time was okay. Too much shitty flour though, lol.

Yeah, I do really bad without carbs like fruits. I also know that if I wanted muscles, it's going to 100% hinder it. Especially without the added protein per bodyweight. How can it be done wrong, for curiosity sake?

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

@Sanega Salt Nigga look at this slow metabolism chad. We’d be twigs if we only are 2k calories

 

[Karakol96]

Have you ever been to 10-12%? I'm saying it more so that at that point, a six pack will appear even though that's controlled with genetics. If you lose enough bodyfat but gain enough muscle, wouldn't it look the same as the opposite at 15%?

no lowest ive been is around 14% and i had good abs there . at 10-12% youll have very defined abs i think youre underestimating how lean it is

 

[AnApparentMyth]

@Sanega Salt Nigga look at this slow metabolism chad. We’d be twigs if we only are 2k calories

I'm so sorry man

 

[AnApparentMyth]

no lowest ive been is around 14% and i had good abs there . at 10-12% youll have very defined abs i think youre underestimating how lean it is

Really? Maybe 15% is a better goal then. I've been close to 17% I think. The difference must be big between the two, right? Like, If I flex RIGHT NOW, I do have abs. But it's not all the time. You know?

 

[Karakol96]

Really? Maybe 15% is a better goal then. I've been close to 17% I think. The difference must be big between the two, right? Like, If I flex RIGHT NOW, I do have abs. But it's not all the time. You know?

well of course, even at 12% they wont be visible if you are fully relaxed

 

[AnApparentMyth]

well of course, even at 12% they wont be visible if you are fully relaxed

Wait what? That's gotta be a pretty big industry lie then, right? I mean, look at any shitty magazine cover about abs.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

I'm so sorry man

It’s brutal bro

 

[AnApparentMyth]

It’s brutal bro

Keep drinking and chugging. Have you ever calculated your BMI before?

 

[HotDogCel]

I don't go gym

 

[Karakol96]

Wait what? That's gotta be a pretty big industry lie then, right? I mean, look at any shitty magazine cover about abs.

yeah. i mean sure youll see some outline but it will barely be visible unless youre flexing

 

[kaijicel]

btw ofc your genetics will matter alot but i just asume

It's an online routine I found, it's a long video but basically it's only dumbbells and a barbell, for now. You probably know the drill, compounds with some isolation's after the compound. 6-12 reps for me, 3 sets. It has worked, and I have increased my overall weights. But, it's a long video. If you wanna see it, let me know.

ig if you enjoy it, stick to it, but dont be afraid to change it if you notice somethings not working

And yeah, the cronometer is keeping track of EVERYTHING. ALL micronutrients too. It's insane.

thats very nice

That's true. I actually dirty bulked so hard up to 150lbs from 130lbs. In like 3 months, I gained 20lbs. IDK if I should be mad or just move on. But my diet at the time was okay. Too much shitty flour though, lol.

just move on, thats alot less worse the my worst dirty bulk wich was a waste lol

Yeah, I do really bad without carbs like fruits. I also know that if I wanted muscles, it's going to 100% hinder it. Especially without the added protein per bodyweight. How can it be done wrong, for curiosity sake?

no building muscle on a cut is not gonna be hindered that much, IF you have the right things in place.

but if your diet is not good enough, then you can maybe fuck your hormones up(fats), not repair your muscles(protein), or not be able have proper workouts(carbs)

but since you already managed to make decent gym progress, you should be fine

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Keep drinking and chugging. Have you ever calculated your BMI before?

BMI is like 19 or something. And I can’t eat or drink more than I do now or I’d be sick all the time. Eating 4k a day is already a lot

 

[AnApparentMyth]

yeah. i mean sure youll see some outline but it will barely be visible unless youre flexing

So how do super jacked up guys stand and not even flex for poses and have them?

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Keep drinking and chugging. Have you ever calculated your BMI before?

 

[AnApparentMyth]

btw ofc your genetics will matter alot but i just asume

ig if you enjoy it, stick to it, but dont be afraid to change it if you notice somethings not working

thats very nice

just move on, thats alot less worse the my worst dirty bulk wich was a waste lol

no building muscle on a cut is not gonna be hindered that much, IF you have the right things in place.

but if your diet is not good enough, then you can maybe fuck your hormones up(fats), not repair your muscles(protein), or not be able have proper workouts(carbs)

but since you already managed to make decent gym progress, you should be fine

True with the genetics. I do have some decent ones, so I might be okay.

ig if you enjoy it, stick to it, but dont be afraid to change it if you notice somethings not working

Thanks. I will probably switch it out after a year and do something else.

no building muscle on a cut is not gonna be hindered that much, IF you have the right things in place.

but if your diet is not good enough, then you can maybe fuck your hormones up(fats), not repair your muscles(protein), or not be able have proper workouts(carbs)

but since you already managed to make decent gym progress, you should be fine

I think just maintain might be my best shot here. I can get enough fat and protein and carbs in, and It wouldn't be the worst thing. But, I also just want to make sure that I can learn the actual form first. Like, the form of a bench press, for example. And just in general not feel horrible and very lethargic.

 

[Karakol96]

So how do super jacked up guys stand and not even flex for poses and have them?

well theyre very low bf ig or flexing them idk

 

[AnApparentMyth]

That pfp mogs my newer one. Probably my best PFP so far.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

well theyre very low bf ig or flexing them idk

Probably steroids, too. Maybe.

 

[kaijicel]

. But, I also just want to make sure that I can learn the actual form first. Like, the form of a bench press, for example. And just in general not feel horrible and very lethargic.

thats actually a very good point i have never heard lmao, yh man true

 

[AnApparentMyth]

thats actually a very good point i have never heard lmao, yh man true

I noticed it a lot when talking to other gymcels. The form can be played with the foods and stuff. Thanks for your diet question, made me think of the form in the first place lmao

 

[TooSomething]

i wouldnt do it either. to 10-12% i mean. youll most likely be more tired and itll be hard to gain muscle. 14-15% is lean already and you feel good and look bigger with clothes on

12% throughout the year is hard to maintain and he will be tired all the time. Had that. Would not recommend.

Nowadays Idgaf about bf. I just want to hulk smash. Strength and weight is everything.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

12% throughout the year is hard to maintain and he will be tired all the time. Had that. Would not recommend.

Nowadays Idgaf about bf. I just want to hulk smash. Strength and weight is everything.

Based GorillaCel

 

[TooSomething]

Based GorillaCel

I am ugly anyway, so why bother about bf, know what I'm sayin'?

Of course one should not get too fat as that aill just weigh you down and not do anything and too much fat acts estrogenic.

So, obviousely be careful with that.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

I am ugly anyway, so why bother about bf, know what I'm sayin'?

Of course one should not get too fat as that aill just weigh you down and not do anything and too much fat acts estrogenic.

So, obviousely be careful with that.

Yeah, that's true. I mean it makes sense, but I feel like me getting lean is just for myself. Like, I can imagine just going to the beach and being topless and looking objectively good. I know that 12% isn't technically needed. But man, it's a goal.

Gorillamaxxing is still good though, and at least you know you can crush the ever living hell out of other nibbas

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

That pfp mogs my newer one. Probably my best PFP so far.

Petition to bring back the old pfp soon jfl

 

[Sanega Salt Nigga]

@Sanega Salt Nigga look at this slow metabolism chad. We’d be twigs if we only are 2k calories

He should switch to protein and high calorie instead to musclemaxx

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

He should switch to protein and high calorie instead to musclemaxx

 

[Sir Silentium]

Easy, just get lean and shredded, there is no trick to it. Eat in a slight calorie deficit - lower carbs, higher protein. Build muscle as you do so.

Fitness industries make cutting and bulking look so necessary when it isn't to build muscle. If you are fatter or have more weight you can lift more, doesn't necessarily mean you will have more muscle. An old friend of mind benched 225 first day in the gym weighing well over 300 pounds. He got leaner and shredded and still only did the same weight, but looked 10x better.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

Easy, just get lean and shredded, there is no trick to it. Eat in a slight calorie deficit - lower carbs, higher protein. Build muscle as you do so.

Fitness industries make cutting and bulking look so necessary when it isn't to build muscle. If you are fatter or have more weight you can lift more, doesn't necessarily mean you will have more muscle. An old friend of mind benched 225 first day in the gym weighing well over 300 pounds. He got leaner and shredded and still only did the same weight, but looked 10x better.

What about what was mentioned here? You say that he did only the same weight, but I do also want better gains.

 

[j10009504]

clean bulk until you can rep 225 bench then recomp. never be small.

 

[Sir Silentium]

What about what was mentioned here? You say that he did only the same weight, but I do also want better gains.

He was massive, at your size you will gain muscle mass as you can't unless you don't lift constantly or don't consume enough protein which is highly unlikely.

 

[AnApparentMyth]

He was massive, at your size you will gain muscle mass as you can't unless you don't lift constantly or don't consume enough protein which is highly unlikely.

I'm like half his weight lmao. But yeah, my diet is fine. Protein up the rear end and all. I kinda just wanna coast for like a year and then figure out the cutting and bulking shit.

 

[Sir Silentium]

I'm like half his weight lmao. But yeah, my diet is fine. Protein up the rear end and all. I kinda just wanna coast for like a year and then figure out the cutting and bulking shit.

No need to cut and bulk brother. It's all propaganda unless your competing. Just lean bulk so you don't get fat. The whole idea of getting massive then cutting is unecessary