Serious Conservative moralfags are worse enemies than bluepillers

[Fontaine]

Be very wary of people who worship God, country and family. They seem allies at first (because they seem anti-degeneracy) but in reality they are the worst "friends" you could have.

I have known several of these guys. Eventually they will tolerate sexual freedom and feminism more than you being a NEET. I had a falling out with a former best friend, a Catholic, when he came to my house one day and started to moralize me about not working. He said (him, the chadlite with a GF, to me the deformed monster) that I had a duty to work, even in a job I hate.

I also met the biggest hypocrite who ever lived on a French fringe forum. He was a handsome millionaire trader with mistresses, as well as a racist and fascist, who LARPed as a Catholic and told all the losers on the forum that they had a moral and religious duty to work in shitty jobs and contribute to society.

Since then I have developed a violent aversion to conservatism.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Just work for a society that hates you theory.

 

[Mainländer]

The worst ones are the ones who have a totally retarded moral compass and are lenient with tons of degeneracies that actually harm society such as women being sluts up to 30 and then settling down, but will reproach you for wanting a 15yo gf.

 

[Fontaine]

The worst ones are the ones who have a totally retarded moral compass moral compass and are lenient with tons of degeneracy that actually harm society such as women being sluts up to 30 and then settling down, but will reproach you for wanting a 15yo gf.

The worst ones are those who blame your depression on "not working" and encourage you to get the first shitty job available, while themselves are doctors, engineers, millionaire traders or lawyers with a girlfriend.

But yeah, a lot of Catholics turn a blind eye to most forms of degeneracy, heresy and social decay. They are the biggest conformists I know and they tend to think that "socially common = moral", "socially uncommon = immoral". A lot defend divorce or feminism now, lol, despite this being total heresy.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

What are your values?

 

[Mainländer]

Also, incels shouldn't seek approval neither in the conservative right nor in the degenerate left. We belong in neither of those sides.

It's like someone said in my thread about Silverchair's "Freak Show" album, in the fight between jock Chads and alternative Chads, we are irrelevant. We are a third party of losers that no one really likes or cares.

 

[Insomniac]

The left hate us for being “misogynistic” and the right hate us for “being lazy and not contributing to society”

Fuck them both. Society can die in a pit of fire for all i care.

 

[Mainländer]

The worst ones are those who blame your depression on "not working" and encourage you to get the first shitty job available, while themselves are doctors, traders or lawyers with a girlfriend.

They totally lack empathy with people like us. My father is like that tbh. When I told him about my interest to do TMS and my struggle with lack of motivation and sadness, he told me that typical line "what you need is hard work and maning up".

 

[TheReaper]

they will tolerate sexual freedom and feminism more than you being a NEET

my parents would rather see me work in a mine than see me living like a neet.
not contributing to the maintenance of society is a sin in their eyes

 

[Mainländer]

The worst ones are those who blame your depression on "not working" and encourage you to get the first shitty job available, while themselves are doctors, engineers, millionaire traders or lawyers with a girlfriend.

But yeah, a lot of Catholics turn a blind eye to most forms of degeneracy, heresy and social decay. They are the biggest conformists I know and they tend to think that "socially common = moral", "socially uncommon = immoral". A lot defend divorce or feminism now, lol, despite this being total heresy.

The fact organised religion complies with social changes through the times is the main reason I don't have any interest in following it anymore.

 

[DahmerBoy]

There is no universal conservatism. Conservatism is different from country to country, from culture to culture. I assume you're talking about Western conservatism.
Some conservatives have the erroneous conception that they can despise the current economic and moral system while shaming everybody who does not positively contribute to the current system, since hard work and positive contribution to the system is a conservative value. However, conservative attitudes and working morale are designated for a conservative system, not one that is fundamentally opposed to it.

You can only change the current regime through un-conservative, brutal and inhumane means. Fight evil with evil! This is something that conservatives have a hard time with since they're good people.

 

[PersonalityChad]

Both the left and the right like to put pussy on a pedestal, but for different reasons.

 

[Shower_Taker]

It’s all about similarities in lifestyles, status & personality when it comes to me getting along with someone. Like, I’m right-wing in general, but I’d become friends with a communist who’s similar to me as a person than, say, another right-winger who’s a normie or a playboy.

I’ve burned myself out too many times trying to ‘fit in’ with people who are on a different plane of existence than mine, it never works out in the end.

 

[BottomFeedER96]

It’s crazy how tolerant they really are to degenerates. They pretend to be holy in front of other people but behind closed doors they have all had premarital sex, adultery, drug abuse you name it. Religious fucks are the most biggest hypocrites I’ve noticed even in the Islamic community

 

[Fontaine]

What are your values?

I believe in absolutes. Either total collectivism/theocracy/fascism, or total Stirnerian egoistic anarchy.

Either a very religious feudal society with a caste system and where sex and love are restricted, or a libertarian society where everyone is free to do as he chooses.

Middle grounds tend to be shitty, they cause mental tension, uncertainty and doubt. And in general they benefit women to the detriment of ugly men.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

can you be anymore kosher?

I believe in absolutes. Either total collectivism/theocracy/fascism, or total Stirnerian egoistic anarchy.

Either a very religious feudal society with a caste system and where sex and love are restricted, or a libertarian society where everyone is free to do as he chooses.

Middle grounds tend to be shitty, they cause mental tension, uncertainty and doubt. And in general they benefit women to the detriment of ugly men.

so do I, but WITHOUT YOUR KIND. now fuck off to Madagascar.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

I believe in absolutes. Either total collectivism/theocracy/fascism, or total Stirnerian egoistic anarchy.

Either a very religious feudal society with a caste system and where sex and love are restricted, or a libertarian society where everyone is free to do as he chooses.

Middle grounds tend to be shitty, they cause mental tension, uncertainty and doubt. And in general they benefit women to the detriment of ugly men.

I believe in absolutes. Either total collectivism/theocracy/fascism, or total Stirnerian egoistic anarchy.

Either a very religious feudal society with a caste system and where sex and love are restricted, or a libertarian society where everyone is free to do as he chooses.

Middle grounds tend to be shitty, they cause mental tension, uncertainty and doubt. And in general they benefit women to the detriment of ugly men.

Very interesting. Thank you fpr answering in such detail.

Wouldn't you say we're already in a libertarian society though? I mean, everyone is basically already given the freedom to do whatever they want with their life? (I am assuming you live in the West). Providing they have the money to do so

 

[Fontaine]

There is no universal conservatism. Conservatism is different from country to country, from culture to culture. I assume you're talking about Western conservatism.
Some conservatives have the erroneous conception that they can despise the current economic and moral system while shaming everybody who does not positively contribute to the current system, since hard work and positive contribution to the system is a conservative value. However, conservative attitudes and working morale are designated for a conservative system, not one that is fundamentally opposed to it.

You can only change the current regime through un-conservative, brutal and inhumane means. Fight evil with evil! This is something that conservatives have a hard time with since they're good people.

High IQ, especially the last paragraph. The French nationalist / reactionary community is especially retarded on this. They know that they will never win democratically, but any talk of secession, coup or refusal to work or pay tax is seen as "sedition", "treason", "laziness" or "sin". That's why I'm very happy that these idiots are losing the fight and being overrun by blacks and arabs. If you can't think pragmatically in a political problem, you're bound to lose. Deontology ethics in politics are markedly inferior to machiavellian consequentialist ethics.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Be very wary of people who worship God, country and family. They seem allies at first (because they seem anti-degeneracy) but in reality they are the worst "friends" you could have.

I have known several of these guys. Eventually they will tolerate sexual freedom and feminism more than you being a NEET. I had a falling out with a former best friend, a Catholic, when he came to my house one day and started to moralize me about not working. He said (him, the chadlite with a GF, to me the deformed monster) that I had a duty to work, even in a job I hate.

I also met the biggest hypocrite who ever lived on a French fringe forum. He was a handsome millionaire trader with mistresses, as well as a racist and fascist, who LARPed as a Catholic and told all the losers on the forum that they had a moral and religious duty to work in shitty jobs and contribute to society.

Since then I have developed a violent aversion to conservatism.

Ye some people are incredibly stupid, they turn a blind eye one of the societal duties but enforces the other. They are basically okay with foids being completely relieved of everything but still except men to carry society.

 

[Fontaine]

Ye some people are incredibly stupid, they turn a blind eye one of the societal duties but enforces the other. They are basically okay with foids being completely relieved of everything but still except men to carry society.

They totally lack empathy with people like us. My father is like that tbh. When I told him about my interest to do TMS and my struggle with lack of motivation and sadness, he told me that typical line "what you need is hard work and maning up".

Your father is dangerous. Mood disorders are very serious and religious faith or discipline is not sufficient to address them (such attempts to treat mental patients with "arsekicking" were made in the past and failed, that's why organized religion is now surprisingly tolerant of psychiatry and psychotropic medication).

 

[Morse_Code]

They totally lack empathy with people like us. My father is like that tbh. When I told him about my interest to do TMS and my struggle with lack of motivation and sadness, he told me that typical line "what you need is hard work and maning up".

He says that because he has to. Otherwise he can't justify wasting his entire life working.

Work is the absolute last thing you should attempt when depressed. Leeching off of the system is far morally superior to being a wagecuck who barely gets by and props up this degenerate society.

 

[Fontaine]

He says that because he has to. Otherwise he can't justify wasting his entire life working.

No, his father says this because he doesn't know what a mood disorder really is.

 

[DahmerBoy]

High IQ, especially the last paragraph. The French nationalist / reactionary community is especially retarded on this. They know that they will never win democratically, but any talk of secession, coup or refusal to work or pay tax is seen as "sedition", "treason", "laziness" or "sin". That's why I'm very happy that these idiots are losing the fight and being overrun by blacks and arabs. If you can't think pragmatically in a political problem, you're bound to lose. Deontology ethics in politics are markedly inferior to machiavellian consequentialist ethics.

I think there's a big difference between a cuckservative and a true conservative. A cuckservative is merely a liberal who cannot keep up with the pace of change. He/She will whine about increasing taxes or gender pronouns, whilst still supporting the right to transgenderism.
I think that most ethnonationalists are perfectly aware of the reality of the situation. They know that they cannot win through democratic means. Especially WN leaders are aware of this fact, people like Richard Spencer f. ex.. I'm 100% sure that Richard Spencer would have no problem torturing hundreds of little babies to death if it will bring his dream of a pan European ethnostate closer to reality. However, in order to get new members and have normies going through a "redpilling"-process they have to keep up the illusion of being anti-violence and pro-democracy. A normie does not want to struggle, or to be a true enemy of the state. They seek comfort and social acceptability. However, once they've gone through the "redpilling"-stage they cannot turn a blind eye to this injustice and they will know what has to be done.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

I think there's a big difference between a cuckservative and a true conservative. A cuckservative is merely a liberal who cannot keep up with the pace of change. He/She will whine about increasing taxes or gender pronouns, whilst still supporting the right to transgenderism.
I think that most ethnonationalists are perfectly aware of the reality of the situation. They know that they cannot win through democratic means. Especially WN leaders are aware of this fact, people like Richard Spencer f. ex.. I'm 100% sure that Richard Spencer would have no problem torturing hundreds of little babies to death if it will bring his dream of a pan European ethnostate closer to reality. However, in order to get new members and have normies going through a "redpilling"-process they have to keep up the illusion of being anti-violence and pro-democracy. A normie does not want to struggle, or to be a true enemy of the state. They seek comfort and social acceptability. However, once they've gone through the "redpilling"-stage they cannot turn a blind eye to this injustice and they will know what has to be done.

then how the fuck does Atomwaffen work? they actually kill people. I knew their leader at one point. we were phone pen pals for a bit.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

face it, optics cucking is no longer working, we have to kill anyone who gets in our way.

nigga is building up his own criminal profile

who cares. nobody has been able to find him. and when he gets arrested, he disappears again into the desert. either a) law enforcement there is retarded or b) they're enabling him.

 

[Blackpilled_Normie]

Conservative moralfags, with all their vices, are the still the lesser evil when compared to libtards who openly advocate for feminism, sexual liberation, destruction of the nuclear family, cuckoldry, and all forms of degeneracy and filth.

 

[iKillCucks]

Youre a beta cuck with no balls or self respect for yourself if you work, contribute, and or have morals/values towards/with society that fucks you over

 

[Deleted member 818]

Both the left and the right like to put pussy on a pedestal, but for different reasons.

 

[DahmerBoy]

then how the fuck does Atomwaffen work? they actually kill people. I knew their leader at one point. we were phone pen pals for a bit.

I was referring to the majority of WN organizations, like altright.com, American Renaissance and Identity Europe. Atomwaffen Division is an outlier. They have a different strategy. They're not concerned about "redpilling" normies. They take individuals who have already gone through the "redpilling" process and prepare them for the inevitable war which has to happen. They have to be capable of extreme brutality, violence and evil!

 

[Italcel]

Just work for a society that hates you theory.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

Youre a beta cuck with no balls or self respect for yourself if you work, contribute, and or have morals/values towards/with society that fucks you over

I'm a Nazbol. obviously I don't.

Conservative moralfags, with all their vices, are the still the lesser evil when compared to libtards who openly advocate for feminism, sexual liberation, destruction of the nuclear family, cuckoldry, and all forms of degeneracy and filth.

mere conservatives don't go far enough. like for instance I almost went to Charlottesville. I was miserable af. most of those people cared about optics, I would've murdered people. I didn't give a shit.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

can't say I agree

you may not agree with conservative advice on how to get ahead in life, but bluepillers gaslight you, which is worse.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

I was referring to the majority of WN organizations, like altright.com, American Renaissance and Identity Europe. Atomwaffen Division is an outlier. They have a different strategy. They're not concerned about "redpilling" normies. They take individuals who have already gone through the "redpilling" process and prepare them for the inevitable war which has to happen. They have to be capable of extreme brutality, violence and evil!

oh AR, where Bathhouse Greg works. he got mad at me for outing him on social media. btw, Dahmer was an unwitting WN hero. the only reason I didn't join was because during the recruitment process I turned to Strasserism and they don't accept Commie-Nazi types.

can't say I agree

you may not agree with conservative advice on how to get ahead in life, but bluepillers gaslight you, which is worse.

oh its fun to gaslight them right back and watch them crumble.
I would've gladly murdered an ANTIFA member and fed their organs to farm animals.

 

[iKillCucks]

I'm a Nazbol. obviously I don't.
I know bro I was just saying in general you know ?

 

[rightwing-ethnicel]

Very interesting. Thank you fpr answering in such detail.

Wouldn't you say we're already in a libertarian society though? I mean, everyone is basically already given the freedom to do whatever they want with their life? (I am assuming you live in the West). Providing they have the money to do so

Come on man, we have 70% real taxes here in Germany, thats not libertarian. Yes you are free to do what you want, but if you want to work you have to give more than half of your earned money to the government, which wastes most of it for nonsense.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

Come on man, we have 70% real taxes here in Germany, thats not libertarian. Yes you are free to do what you want, but if you want to work you have to give more than half of your earned money to the government, which wastes most of it for nonsense.

Fair enough. I guess I am fortunate enough to not have to work and live in Germany then! Do they not have a NEET type system there either?

I just wanted to understand what his values were, not his political views to be honest. Since he was telling me to stay away from certain people with certain values

 

[Deleted member 1410]

I know @iKillCucks I get defensive real quick. my bad.

 

[DahmerBoy]

oh AR, where Bathhouse Greg works. he got mad at me for outing him on social media. btw, Dahmer was an unwitting WN hero. the only reason I didn't join was because during the recruitment process I turned to Strasserism and they don't accept Commie-Nazi types.


oh its fun to gaslight them right back and watch them crumble.
I would've gladly murdered an ANTIFA member and fed their organs to farm animals.

A normie doesn't become a violent revolutionary immediately. They have to go through a process. They'll start with mild and harmless truths and then move on to more dangerous ones that will slowly but surely cripple their old sense of the World. Optics are there to keep up an illusion; to allow normies to go through this "redpilling" process.
I was raised by parents who are on the far left. If someone had introduced me to ethnonationalism by saying that we have to murder everyone who opposes it, I would been morally repulsed and never have gone through the "redpilling" process. However, my journey began by listening to anti-SJW YouTubers, who made me question feminist ideology and female nature. I then went on to civic nationalism, then to ethnonationalism through democratic means and now to ethnonationalism through violent means.

AWD is great, but they have to understand how this works and keep their recruitement and ideology in the shadows. They should infiltrate WN organizations and recruit the ones who are capable of violence and brutality.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

Come on man, we have 70% real taxes here in Germany, thats not libertarian. Yes you are free to do what you want, but if you want to work you have to give more than half of your earned money to the government, which wastes most of it for nonsense.

I support taxing businesses that play favorites with their clientele, mostly in the digital/e-realm. I'm no "bake the cake bigot" kind of guy, though.

A normie doesn't become a violent revolutionary immediately. They have to go through a process. They'll start with mild and harmless truths and then move on to more dangerous ones that will slowly but surely cripple their old sense of the World. Optics are there to keep up an illusion; to allow normies to go through this "redpilling" process.
I was raised by parents who are on the far left. If someone had introduced me to ethnonationalism by saying that we have to murder everyone who opposes it, I would been morally repulsed and never have gone through the "redpilling" process. However, my journey began by listening to anti-SJW YouTubers, who made me question feminist ideology and female nature. I then went on to civic nationalism, then to ethnonationalism through democratic means and now to ethnonationalism through violent means.

AWD is great, but they have to understand how this works and keep their recruitement and ideology in the shadows. They should infiltrate WN organizations and recruit the ones who are capable of violence and brutality.

I got redpilled at 12. that's awfully young. I'm in my mid-thirties now.
the only issue I have with them is that they only accept NatSoc and Fascist...not LeftNats like me.

 

[rightwing-ethnicel]

Fair enough. I guess I am fortunate enough to not have to work and live in Germany then! Do they not have a NEET type system there either?

I just wanted to understand what his values were, not his political views to be honest. Since he was telling me to stay away from certain people with certain values

Complete full neet to the end. You even get money when you go to school, im going to school and get 425€ every month, when you join university you also get money, 650€ every month.

 

[iKillCucks]

I know @iKillCucks I get defensive real quick. my bad.

I understand I would too. I fucking despise moralfags and cucks too id never wanna be accused of being one

 

[rightwing-ethnicel]

I support taxing businesses that play favorites with their clientele, mostly in the digital/e-realm. I'm no "bake the cake bigot" kind of guy, though.


I got redpilled at 12. that's awfully young. I'm in my mid-thirties now.
the only issue I have with them is that they only accept NatSoc and Fascist...not LeftNats like me.

Taxing businesses will make products more expensive and will lower the salaries, its no good option to tax them, even its the biggest business in the country.

 

[uninstall]

stop hyper-intellectualizing everything

ffs

but yeah

fuck religious normons

 

[Fontaine]

stop hyper-intellectualizing everything

ffs

What the fuck does that even mean? Are you a conservative asshole?

 

[Deleted member 12355]

largely agree. I don't believe in perserving the old order, I believe in establishing a new

 

[DahmerBoy]

I support taxing businesses that play favorites with their clientele, mostly in the digital/e-realm. I'm no "bake the cake bigot" kind of guy, though.


I got redpilled at 12. that's awfully young. I'm in my mid-thirties now.
the only issue I have with them is that they only accept NatSoc and Fascist...not LeftNats like me.

Did you have abusive parents? I'm always very wary of people who get redpilled at a very young age, as it's often just a way to escape their miserable reality at home (e.g. Christian Picciolini), but maybe you're not one of them.
Fascism and National Socialism are not economically right wing. Are they not left-wing enough for you?

 

[Deleted member 12355]

Did you have abusive parents? I'm always very wary of people who get redpilled at a very young age, as it's often just a way to escape their miserable reality at home (e.g. Christian Picciolini), but maybe you're not one of them.
Fascism and National Socialism are not economically right wing. Are they not left-wing enough for you?

situation's a bit different in america

 

[Lord Byron]

The worst ones are the ones who have a totally retarded moral compass and are lenient with tons of degeneracies that actually harm society such as women being sluts up to 30 and then settling down, but will reproach you for wanting a 15yo gf.

Traditional conservatives are better than liberal degenerates but they are not friends of men.

There has never been a sociey in which men banded together and supported each other.

This is because women raise children. From the moment of birth their mothers instill gynocentrism in them, even if they do not mean to. They teach boys that women are their masters, and other men their competitors.

Every adult man who was raised by a foid is a product of mental conditioning.

 

[thePhantom]

I believe in absolutes. Either total collectivism/theocracy/fascism, or total Stirnerian egoistic anarchy.

Either a very religious feudal society with a caste system and where sex and love are restricted, or a libertarian society where everyone is free to do as he chooses.

Middle grounds tend to be shitty, they cause mental tension, uncertainty and doubt. And in general they benefit women to the detriment of ugly men.

Interesting perspective. You have a point that the ambiguity inherent to middle grounds tends to be exploited by those with the deceptively subtle power that comes with social status, at the expense of those who need a more rules-based order in order to assert their rights. .

 

[IncelSuperSaiyan]

Be very wary of people who worship God, country and family. They seem allies at first (because they seem anti-degeneracy) but in reality they are the worst "friends" you could have.

I have known several of these guys. Eventually they will tolerate sexual freedom and feminism more than you being a NEET. I had a falling out with a former best friend, a Catholic, when he came to my house one day and started to moralize me about not working. He said (him, the chadlite with a GF, to me the deformed monster) that I had a duty to work, even in a job I hate.

I also met the biggest hypocrite who ever lived on a French fringe forum. He was a handsome millionaire trader with mistresses, as well as a racist and fascist, who LARPed as a Catholic and told all the losers on the forum that they had a moral and religious duty to work in shitty jobs and contribute to society.

Since then I have developed a violent aversion to conservatism.

What did he trade? 99% of day traders go bankrupt eventually.

I don't believe in God, how can God exists but everyone who believes in God is a fucking hypocrite?