Based [Clown World] Who else noticed that Arthur got happier as he got more violent and the mood overall was a happier tone

[Women_Fucking_Suck]

The first 15 minutes of watching the Joker I was like holy shit this movie is depressing as fuck and you can see arthurs life is total shit up until he accepts the clown world and that his life is a comedy. He just starts to laugh the pain away. Accept the clown world brothers and you will be happier. Just as a comparison I remember him walking up those steps looking depressed as fuck around the beginning of the movie but later on when he becomes the joker he is dancing his way down them without a care in the world looking happier than he has the entire movie.

 

[redditrapist]

Yes, that was a controversial aspect of the movie. He walks up the steps extremely dejected, shoulders down. It is like, by choosing the right thing (remember, going up stairs invokes going up to God/heaven, doing something) the world rejects him.

And then he is dancing down the stairs (down, as in going to hell), and he is dancing and full of energy.

So, by choosing evil, he is actually gaining life energy. And the move is suggesting that a bad environment/society forces people to choose evil.

 

[Women_Fucking_Suck]

Yes, that was a controversial aspect of the movie. He walks up the steps extremely dejected, shoulders down. It is like, by choosing the right thing (remember, going up stairs invokes going up to God/heaven, doing something) the world rejects him.

And then he is dancing down the stairs (down, as in going to hell), and he is dancing and full of energy.

So, by choosing evil, he is actually gaining life energy. And the move is suggesting that a bad environment/society forces people to choose evil.

High IQ and based symbolismcel

 

[TINMAN]

I don't think he was really "happy", in the same way that Chad is, but strangely I understood exactly how he felt. I don't know why, but after the ending scene of the movie, I had this grin on my face that was really hard to wipe away.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I still haven’t seen it

 

[Deleted member 19079]

Yes, that was a controversial aspect of the movie. He walks up the steps extremely dejected, shoulders down. It is like, by choosing the right thing (remember, going up stairs invokes going up to God/heaven, doing something) the world rejects him.

And then he is dancing down the stairs (down, as in going to hell), and he is dancing and full of energy.

So, by choosing evil, he is actually gaining life energy. And the move is suggesting that a bad environment/society forces people to choose evil.

what’s with curries and hitler? I swear ur the third currycel on this site with a hitler avi

 

[FrothySolutions]

He was searching for the whole movie, for his whole life, for his smile, and then at the end of the movie he found it.

 

[CrackingYs]

He became happier because he went off his meds, found purpose in his life, and became who he was meant to be all along.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

Not just that, but he became more articulate. Before that, he was a stuttering anxietycel

 

[theson]

I think all his life he tried to believe in the conventional interpretation of right and wrong but by the end of the film, he was hurt and rejected to many times by the people he trusted that he just gave up. He threw up his hands and let himself take pleasure in the mayhem caused by the rioters. It's pretty much the journey that most social outcasts must face. He tried to fit in and believe in the system but he was betrayed and hurt over and over again. He was painted as a villain by society from the start but only at the end did he accept that role.

 

[Women_Fucking_Suck]

I think all his life he tried to believe in the conventional interpretation of right and wrong but by the end of the film, he was hurt and rejected to many times by the people he trusted that he just gave up. He threw up his hands and let himself take pleasure in the mayhem caused by the rioters. It's pretty much the journey that most social outcasts must face. He tried to fit in and believe in the system but he was betrayed and hurt over and over again. He was painted as a villain by society from the start but only at the end did he accept that role.

Society totally rejected him. He was a good person all he wanted was to make other people happy and laugh and didnt even expect anything in return he was a model citizen and had pure intentions but society completely fucking shit on him.

 

[redditrapist]

High IQ and based symbolismcel

Tesla-tier analysis

This applies to us. If society was fair--as in the old days--with one man, one foid, do you think we would be here? Do any of us want to rot like this? Of course not! All of us here want a family life, to be a productive person. But society is forcing this. And if we choose to do what is right, we are ALWAYS put down. So naturally, man turns to evil, and that gives him the life energy. This move is so great, because it portrays that so well. He want to be a successful clown, to make people happy, to have a relationship. But he is always put down, and is forced into evil, in order to gain his self-worth.

what’s with curries and hitler? I swear ur the third currycel on this site with a hitler avi

Do u not like Hitler?

 

[theson]

Society totally rejected him. He was a good person all he wanted was to make other people happy and laugh and didnt even expect anything in return he was a model citizen and had pure intentions but society completely fucking shit on him.

I also think it is ironic that the media hyped this movie up as having something to do with incels, when in fact there were no direct references to inceldom in it. I think that people subconsciously realize that incels are at least one category of people today that are marginalized in a way that Arthur Fleck was. Talking about incels is a faux pas and it is because acknowledging the problem means that your "freedom" of choice is not without cost. Inviting everyone in the class except that loser everyone hates to the part isn't a without consequence. Picking the clumsy fat kid last for dodgeball isn't without consequence. You have freedom of choice, but it's not "free". Your average person hates that. They hate it and they don't like this movie because it reminds them of it. Those African kids with the flies on their faces that you see infomercial about are far away and far out of sight so it doesn't bother people as much. But when your classmate or coworker is driven mad by the fact that you treat him like shit daily for being awkward or ugly, that's more real to you. It's not as abstract as the starving African kids in the questionable infomercials on late night TV. That's in your backyard. You're now not indirectly responsible, you are DIRECTLY responsible.

 

[Joker]

Yes, that was a controversial aspect of the movie. He walks up the steps extremely dejected, shoulders down. It is like, by choosing the right thing (remember, going up stairs invokes going up to God/heaven, doing something) the world rejects him.

And then he is dancing down the stairs (down, as in going to hell), and he is dancing and full of energy.

So, by choosing evil, he is actually gaining life energy. And the move is suggesting that a bad environment/society forces people to choose evil.

nail on coffin

 

[LastGerman]

But he is always put down, and is forced into evil, in order to gain his self-worth.

We should fight fire with inferno.

 

[Emba]

I still haven’t seen it

Batman arrests him.

what’s with curries and hitler? I swear ur the third currycel on this site with a hitler avi

Curries are ubermench! Duh!