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Civilization and the sick role of women

Saint Kaczynski

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If we are going to live in a civilized world, then the heritable characteristics that keep the wheel spinning should be going for centuries. In order for that to happen, social and cultural pressure are necessary.

The main highly heritable characteristics that help maintain civilization are intelligence and behavior.

Intelligence is the quintessential human trait which separates us from other animals. No advanced civilization can be maintained without it.

Behavior ensures a compatible set of traits among society which maintains its established pillars and imposed laws.

Which leads us to a serious problem: it has been known for decades now that women are highly attracted to psychopathic, narcissistic, and manipulative men.

Not only that, but women are also attracted to aggressive and antisocial men in general. Bullies and gang members have far more sex partners than the victims they inflicted pain upon. Thousands of love letters are written and sent to serial killers and other types of criminals in jail. All of the writers are women.

Men who engage in criminal activity are usually of lower intelligence and display antisocial behavior that harms society.

As the founders and protectors of civilization, men ought to ask themselves: is it reasonable to let women be the gatekeepers of sex when we know they aren't attracted to intelligent, responsible, hardworking, law-abiding men?

Why the criminal lowlives who used to bully people in High School get to reproduce with several women while actual intelligent men with decent careers that contribute to society rot alone until they die?

Shouldn't we be doing like our ancestors and forcing our daughters and sisters to engage with decent men so we can maintain civilization?
 
Shouldn't we be doing like our ancestors and forcing our daughters and sisters to engage with decent men so we can
Are we decent?
I don't think so but so aren't most normies.
Every man should be able to have a foid.
 
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Are we decent?
I don't know about you, but I certainly am.

I don't think so but so aren't most normies.
As long as they are hardworking, law-abiding citizens I see them as decent. From the lower classes to the upper classes, we can find intelligent and responsible members of society.

Every man should be able to have a foid.
In a civilized society, civilized men should be the priority.
 
i feel like a lot of these "civilized" men these days are the ones being dark triad
Indeed. Do you think that, in the system I proposed in my original post, we would be able to weed out the bad men for the most part and maintain civilization? Do you see any problem with it?
 
Shouldn't we be doing like our ancestors and forcing our daughters and sisters to engage with decent men so we can maintain civilization?
We were doing this in the old times, now it’s shit
 
Shouldn't we be doing like our ancestors and forcing our daughters and sisters to engage with decent men so we can maintain civilization?
It is the powerful people decide the rule of the society , and power comes from dark triad. So, why would dark triad men make rules which goes against them ?
 
Indeed. Do you think that, in the system I proposed in my original post, we would be able to weed out the bad men for the most part and maintain civilization? Do you see any problem with it?
i think those "civilized" dark triad types that fit in should be exposed and ostracized until they've proven that they can show good behaviour
 
It is the powerful people decide the rule of the society , and power comes from dark triad.
I agree powerful people rule society, but Dark Triad is a set of characteristics that harm society. It's only happening because we allow it. No tyrannical government can rise if citizens unite against it, especially if they have weapons.

So, why would dark triad men make rules which goes against them ?
They shouldn't. We should go against them and take over society. We shouldn't let bad people rule society. It's part of the reason we are in terrible situation to begin with.
 
We should go against them and take over society.
You can't because you are weak , you don't have any power. Also the basic thing is the current system is benefiting most people and most people are ahppy with the present system , that is why it has not been overthrown yet.

You are weak and you are minority , you can't do anything about it.
 
Foids select men based on the size of their dick
 
If we are going to live in a civilized world, then the heritable characteristics that keep the wheel spinning should be going for centuries. In order for that to happen, social and cultural pressure are necessary
"In order to birth little inbred bastards in an unending chain of next generations filled with problems, we must create arranged marriages so they conform already goddammit".

That and the fact you see desirable men as elephants that stomp people to the ground TOGETHER just like you love to, like Kaczynski putting people on the terra/terror state.

Alas, this will bring the extinction of humanity. People who value togetherness to that point start fights and wars because, despite the opposing ideas, they are on the battleGROUND TOGETHER! And we all know what's gonna happen if modern nuclear bombs were used there.

Yes, civilization needs to be reshaped, but not by any way. Certainly not yours.
 
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You can't because you are weak , you don't have any power. Also the basic thing is the current system is benefiting most people and most people are ahppy with the present system , that is why it has not been overthrown yet.
It becomes crystal clear how detached from reality you are when you state absurdities like this. You don't live in the real world if you truly believe people are happy with the present system and there is no discontent among normal people.

I guess years of inceldom damage the brain.

You are weak and you are minority , you can't do anything about it.
Make no mistake, the only weak person here is you, not me. You are the coward; too much of a pussy to fight for anything. I'm glad your genes aren't going to be passed onto new generations.

If you lived anywhere outside your bubble, you would know I am not alone and there are tons of people across the West that are slowly forming bonds and building communities to fight this oppressive system. They have all kinds of motivation, ideology is just one of them.
 
It becomes crystal clear how detached from reality you are when you state absurdities like this. You don't live in the real world if you truly believe people are happy with the present system and there is no discontent among normal people.

I guess years of inceldom damage the brain.


Make no mistake, the only weak person here is you, not me. You are the coward; too much of a pussy to fight for anything. I'm glad your genes aren't going to be passed onto new generations.

If you lived anywhere outside your bubble, you would know I am not alone and there are tons of people across the West that are slowly forming bonds and building communities to fight this oppressive system. They have all kinds of motivation, ideology is just one of them.
The only way to make women not breed with dark triad men is to put them back in the house again and take way all their rights and make arranged marriage compulsory .
How many men will support such a system ?
 
You can't because you are weak , you don't have any power. Also the basic thing is the current system is benefiting most people and most people are ahppy with the present system , that is why it has not been overthrown yet.

You are weak and you are minority , you can't do anything about it.
Exactly, and that's precisely the reason why women aren't attracted. They want someone that can take care of them, of their family, of their offspring. They want someone with power (btw, being good looking and attractive, is also a form of power: people are way more likely to help you and give what you want)
As the founders and protectors of civilization, men ought to ask themselves: is it reasonable to let women be the gatekeepers of sex when we know they aren't attracted to intelligent, responsible, hardworking, law-abiding men?
Real intelligence is making other people do your own bidding, accomplishing a lot by doing the least. Real intelligence is making your own rules, and getting away with it.
Being "intelligent, responsible, hardworking, law-abiding men" while also getting blindly used by others, is still no good.
 
The only way to make women not breed with dark triad men is to put them back in the house again and take way all their rights and make arranged marriage compulsory .
Correct.

How many men will support such a system ?
Look at the bigger picture here: I assume you're somewhat young, but have you ever seen so many men discussing the problems we are facing now? Never before have we seen so many articles, blogs, videos, forums, and communities discussing the Blackpill, the Redpill, and other important aspects of our civilization.

Never have I seen so many people, especially youngsters, calling out the Jews on the internet, making protests all across the West against communism, exposing the globohomo PC world we're living in, and criticizing women's sick behavior as they are doing now.

How many years went by since the fall of National Socialist Germany? Not even a hundred.

How many years went by since the end of the racial segregation in America? Not even a hundred.

How many decades of feminism? Not even a hundred.

This indicates an important fact: in a macroscopical level, things are starting to change very fast.

How many years until Millenials and Zoomers, the most conservative generations in a while, finally grow up to a world even sicker that they found today? How many years until they've finally had it with all this bullshit and leaving the system behind and contributing to its collapse?

This is not over. No system can be maintained with millions of sick people who hate their own governments. It can take a whole century, but something will happen.
 
[UWSL]Yes, civilization needs to be reshaped, but not by any way. Certainly not yours.[/UWSL]
“Guys we shouldn’t do anything about the state if society because we just don’t, trust me on this one.”
 
Exactly, and that's precisely the reason why women aren't attracted. They want someone that can take care of them, of their family, of their offspring. They want someone with power (btw, being good looking and attractive, is also a form of power: people are way more likely to help you and give what you want)
This does not make sense, because good citizens of society can still protect and provide for their families. Criminal and unintelligent people cannot as they usually leave their children and wives and never look back.

By the way, I never said attractive men would never reproduce. Of course looks would be important, but intelligence, behavior and mental health would be prioritized. Explain to me how these are bad for society.

Real intelligence is making other people do your own bidding, accomplishing a lot by doing the least. Real intelligence is making your own rules, and getting away with it.
Being "intelligent, responsible, hardworking, law-abiding men" while also getting blindly used by others, is still no good.
I partly agree, though you can be intelligent and still contribute to society, can you not?

Isn't this exactly what scientists, lawyers, doctors, engineers, mechanicians, artists, programmers, inventors, and other types of workers have been doing this whole time?
 
“Guys we shouldn’t do anything about the state if society because we just don’t, trust me on this one.”
I meant it shouldn't be reshaped by just any way, but THE Way. And The Way is not his position.

Mental theory proves that the only way for humanity now is a miracle given that we are ruled by animals that far outnumber us, and The Way to reach that miracle with the tools we have is through technology, cosmopolitanism, gloablization, and the extinction of any homo sapiens (different from human) unable to think for themselves. Those are not togetherness because there's discrimination, but the right discrimination, the only one that matters in the context of globalization, that is whether you are human or not.
 
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Men who engage in criminal activity are usually of lower intelligence and display antisocial behavior that harms society.
In a way, yeah that's true. But you have to consider that every person on top, in power, is like that. So they support that kind of category... how you gonna change that?
As the founders and protectors of civilization, men ought to ask themselves: is it reasonable to let women be the gatekeepers of sex when we know they aren't attracted to intelligent, responsible, hardworking, law-abiding men?

Why the criminal lowlives who used to bully people in High School get to reproduce with several women while actual intelligent men with decent careers that contribute to society rot alone until they die?

Shouldn't we be doing like our ancestors and forcing our daughters and sisters to engage with decent men so we can maintain civilization?
I agree with you, it would be nice to promote goodness instead of selfishness and bad behavior... but, as said before, how are u gonna achieve that?
It becomes crystal clear how detached from reality you are when you state absurdities like this. You don't live in the real world if you truly believe people are happy with the present system and there is no discontent among normal people.

I guess years of inceldom damage the brain.


Make no mistake, the only weak person here is you, not me. You are the coward; too much of a pussy to fight for anything. I'm glad your genes aren't going to be passed onto new generations.

If you lived anywhere outside your bubble, you would know I am not alone and there are tons of people across the West that are slowly forming bonds and building communities to fight this oppressive system. They have all kinds of motivation, ideology is just one of them.
Don't take it personally, he's just being practical (and honest). Besides, who is fighting who? I dont see anyone figthing. How is that? Why are you not fighting? All I see, every day, is men losing more and more rights... and dignity.
 
In a way, yeah that's true. But you have to consider that every person on top, in power, is like that. So they support that kind of category... how you gonna change that?
Do I have a crystal ball to point every possible way of success? No.

But revolution starts off as an idea.
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American soldiers were making small talk about the unfair treatment of the British Empire.

I bet someone showed up at the point just to say, "hur dur, forming colonies to destroy the Empire, are you crazy? You'll never beat the elite! Freedom is not achievable when there's bad people in power."

Sounds a lot like you, doesn't it.

Guess what happened when the colonies raised up.

I agree with you, it would be nice to promote goodness instead of selfishness and bad behavior... but, as said before, how are u gonna achieve that?
It's a process. It doesn't happen overnight.

Do you want me to write essays on how to accomplish this step by step? It's incredibly exhausting.

For now, I'm just sharing my thoughts. You don't have to agree. Go lay down and rot as you were already doing. That will certainly change things.

Don't take it personally, he's just being practical (and honest). Besides, who is fighting who? I dont see anyone figthing.
You haven't been paying attention then.

How is that? Why are you not fighting? All I see, every day, is men losing more and more rights... and dignity.
That is going to be the breaking point sooner or later.
 
This does not make sense, because good citizens of society can still protect and provide for their families.
You wont get any good job by being a "good citizen", doesnt matter how talented u are. Everywhere there is a competition, there are people playing dirty and winning because of it. It's a brutal reality...
There are exceptions, of course, but I think that the more we go forward, it will continue to get worse (more and more people, less and less resources left available for humanity... it's gonna get ugly)
Criminal and unintelligent people cannot as they usually leave their children and wives and never look back.
Criminals are only the one getting caught. Every successful person has got there by breaking many laws and ethics, by being extremely selfish and ruthless (and so evil, of sorts). That's why they all have and need extremely good lawyers
By the way, I never said attractive men would never reproduce. Of course looks would be important, but intelligence, behavior and mental health would be prioritized. Explain to me how these are bad for society.
I said I agree it would be nice... by it seems utopic to me. How would a society like that work? And how u get there? To give power to good people, you must first take it from the not-so-good ones... do you really expect them to peacefully give out all their privileges and power achieved?
I partly agree, though you can be intelligent and still contribute to society, can you not?

Isn't this exactly what scientists, lawyers, doctors, engineers, mechanicians, artists, programmers, inventors, and other types of workers have been doing this whole time?
It's getting harder and harder to so do. Plus, most of scientists doctors engineers mechanicians etc are scammers of sorts. Even programmers do shady things, mostly to each others, but also to customers at times.
Eventually yes, there are people that actually make good, contribute in a very positive way and make society advance, but they are not treated at all good or in a satisfactory way.

Look at Alan Tuning for example: he achieved so much in his life, changed the world with his achievements, and yet... he died by suicide, in misery poverty loliness sadness and utterly complete desperation.
 
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You wont get any good job by being a "good citizen", doesnt matter how talented u are. Everywhere there is a competition, there are people playing dirty and winning because of it. It's a brutal reality...
There are exceptions, of course, but I think that the more we go forward, it will continue to get worse (more and more people, less and less resources left available for humanity... it's gonna get ugly)
The point of the original post — which you are deliberately derailing to create a strawman argument of what I said — is to suggest that civilized men, not criminal men, should be prioritized in society.

Now, civilized men can be disagreeable and even aggressive, but these are different from being literal psychopaths and bullies who will end up harming society sooner or later.

Can't you see the difference?

These men, who are selected by many women, are not beneficial to our civilization, even if they have some good qualities (that civilized men can also have, by the way).


Criminals are only the one getting caught. Every successful person has got there by breaking many laws and ethics, by being extremely selfish and ruthless (and so evil, of sorts). That's why they all have and need extremely good lawyers
"Every successful person"? That isn't so.

There are corrupt countries and less corrupt countries. There are countries with higher rates of criminality and lower rates of criminality. There are countries with higher morals and countries with lower morals.

These things vary by civilization, don't tell me people are exploiting, killing, and manipulating each other everywhere just to get a piece of cake in the end. That is certainly not true for every community out there.

I said I agree it would be nice... by it seems utopic to me. How would a society like that work?
Again, you want me to spoon-feed you with answers. Intellectual laziness.

It's getting harder and harder to so do. Plus, most of scientists doctors engineers mechanicians etc are scammers of sorts.
"Most"? Again, you haven't provided any evidence for this assertion.

Even programmers do shady things, mostly to each others, but also to customers at times.
Eventually yes, there are people that actually make good, contribute in a very positive way and make society advance, but they are not treated at all good or in a satisfactory way.
Exactly. Which is why we need to sort things out and build a society which values those people.

Look at Alan tuning for example: he achieved so much in his life, changed the world with his achievments, and yet... he died by sucide, in misery poverty sadness and utterly complete desperation.
That doesn't have to be the outcome of every citizen.
 
Do I have a crystal ball to point every possible way of success? No.

But revolution starts off as an idea.

American soldiers were making small talk about the unfair treatment of the British Empire.

I bet someone showed up at the point just to say, "hur dur, forming colonies to destroy the Empire, are you crazy? You'll never beat the elite! Freedom is not achievable when there's bad people in power."

Sounds a lot like you, doesn't it.

Guess what happened when the colonies raised up.

It's a process. It doesn't happen overnight.

Do you want me to write essays on how to accomplish this step by step? It's incredibly exhausting.

For now, I'm just sharing my thoughts. You don't have to agree. Go lay down and rot as you were already doing. That will certainly change things.
Ow I see, we're just talking and sharing ideas, fair enough. Then let's not call others "the only weak person here is you, not me. You are the coward; too much of a pussy to fight for anything", given how no one of us is actually fighting, for real
That is going to be the breaking point sooner or later.
I don't know, some men out there are just willing to let any abuse on their head pass... which then becomes excepted from everyone else. It's really disgusting, and makes me regret being a male.
 
Why do you care about society? In a few centuries we will be able to colonize new worlds and create our own societies like gods
 

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