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Christianity is my cope

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Because my life has a intrisic value.

All normies will be judged by letting us in forced loneliness and marginalized from society and community life.
 
how can you cope with religion/god after seeing so much suffering and pain and unfairness every day in this shitty world?
 
Só existe essa vida aqui e os chads estão aproveitando ela ao máximo enquanto eu vegeto no quarto :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree:
 
[UWSL][UWSL]I can't believe in god after all the shit going on in this world.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
 
how can you cope with religion/god after seeing so much suffering and pain and unfairness every day in this shitty world?
It's humanity blame, and Jesus will recompensate the marginalized and opressed.
[UWSL][UWSL]I can't believe in god after all the shit going on in this world.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
Watching the injustice it's the major reason to [UWSL]seek comfort in God[/UWSL]


God will make justice and that's good.
 
It's humanity blame, and Jesus will recompensate the marginalized and opressed.
if he's the one who made everything then why does he let the suffering happen? if he loves his believers then why does he still let them suffer?
 
no christ for your face boyo
 
if he's the one who made everything then why does he let the suffering happen? if he loves his believers then why does he still let them suffer?
[UWSL]This is a difficult point to explain for those who are not open to trying to understand Christianity. But I'm glad you're pursuing this sincerely and without being biased.[/UWSL]
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Human suffering is the result of what we call "Original Sin", at first glance it may seem meaningless and unfair, an invention to justify the control of human behavior. But I don't think that's it.

What you must understand is that Christianity preaches that suffering is human and not divine guilt. That's why in Genesis the phrase "this is good" is always said after Creation.

The Creation plan is good but it is in a corrupt state.[/UWSL]


Suffering is the punishment we pay, even those who believe, but will be rewarded. Suffering it's always temporarily, and it can also make you grow spiritually. Why demonize suffering so much? Accept it.

I know it's hard to believe this, to hear this, but if you sincerely reflect on what I told you you can grow spiritually, trust me.
 
[UWSL]This is a difficult point to explain for those who are not open to trying to understand Christianity. But I'm glad you're pursuing this sincerely and without being biased.[/UWSL]
I am opened to understand things, my questions are sincere.
Why demonize suffering so much? Accept it.
I didn't choose suffering, so why do I have and had to go through it?
and it can also make you grow spiritually.
suffering just made me and most people here move away from spirituality.
 
Because my life has a intrisic value.

All normies will be judged by letting us in forced loneliness and marginalized from society and community life.
I agree, its my cope too.

I didn't choose suffering, so why do I have and had to go through it?
God never promised us a good easy life in this world. He allows pain, suffering, and evil to happen so we can grow in faith and for his grace to shine through.

Christ suffered for all of humanity on the Cross. He told us to pick up and carry our cross to follow him. It was always supposed to be difficult, which is why we have to lean on him for strength and support.
 
#gigacope :feelsclown:
how can you cope with religion/god after seeing so much suffering and pain and unfairness every day in this shitty world?
[UWSL][UWSL]I can't believe in god after all the shit going on in this world.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
God deniers are very often copers. That's something I've come to understand recently. So many people cope with "the world is suffering and unfairness" to say that God doesn't exist because of that. As if them not liking God or this world means he doesn't exist. They're copers. They deny truth because they don't like it the way a :bluepill: would deny hypergamy.

The bible actually covers a lot your complaints. Don't deny reality (that Christianity is the truth) just cause you don't like it and/or understand it that well. Don't be a coper. Deal with reality and get saved so you don't go to hell. Salvation is free. You can see it in my signature.

I came to this truth after many years of truth seeking and being very blackpilled and it surprised how much the bible knew about truth and blackpill as well as many other things. It talks about the bible being the final truth and how a sad (and contemplating) man is much more likely to find the truth than a person enjoying "the song of fools" (a normie npc). I could make a thread on this.
 
God deniers are very often copers. That's something I've come to understand recently. So many people cope with "the world is suffering and unfairness" to say that God doesn't exist because of that. As if them not liking God or this world means he doesn't exist. They're copers. They deny truth because they don't like it the way a :bluepill: would deny hypergamy.

The bible actually covers a lot your complaints. Don't deny reality (that Christianity is the truth) just cause you don't like it and/or understand it that well. Don't be a coper. Deal with reality and get saved so you don't go to hell. Salvation is free. You can see it in my signature.

I came to this truth after many years of truth seeking and being very blackpilled and it surprised how much the bible knew about truth and blackpill as well as many other things. It talks about the bible being the final truth and how a sad (and contemplating) man is much more likely to find the truth than a person enjoying "the song of fools" (a normie npc). I could make a thread on this.
My question was genuine because I always want to learn more, calling everyone who asks questions about your beliefs a "coper" or a normie npc isn't helping your case or inviting anyone to have a discussion and seek the truth.
 
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God is cope. Thats not to say he isnt real or i dont believe in him. I just dont like him very much, like twin lannister said on game of thrones. The bible did warn us about alot of the degenerate shit we see now, today. Homosexuality, sex out of wedlock, abortion, women being in charge, prostitution(includes only fans, etc), hate, greed, thieves(taxes are theft in the modern day). All things the church and the bible denounced. Look where we are now.
 
Religion is an epitome of bluepilled delusions.
 
So many Christians and yet few of them could ever go without sex before getting married fucking hypocrites
 
I hope you are just joking because Christianity is a fucking retarded cope
 
If heaven were to exist, what does everybody be doing up there for all eternity
 
I would say Satan is based but there the same person so its all trash to me
 
My question was genuine because I always want to learn more, calling everyone who asks questions about your beliefs a "coper" or a normie npc isn't helping your case or inviting anyone to have a discussion and seek the truth.
Whatever. People here and in the world like to call Christians copers, as if we just chose to believe in it because we like what it offers instead of that we just came to see it as the truth after researching it.

And recently I have realized that many people in a way cope by taking the attitude that it can't be real because they don't like it, the way a bluepill coper denies truths that they don't like.
So many Christians and yet few of them could ever go without sex before getting married fucking hypocrites
They're not hypocrites since they (should) acknowledge that all people are sinners and can only escape hell through believing the gospel, the work of Jesus.

Anyway, the overwhelming majority of so called Christians aren't even Christian. They don't know the gospel. The bible says few make it to heaven, but not because it's difficult (it's not, it's free), but because they won't come to the truth.
 
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Even if you completely ignore the social part religion is completely useless.

All of your efforts effectiveness are solely based on mental stability, factual knowledge and natural skills, you don't need any third party faith to keep going. It's simply not rational to be attached to something that will never provide you materializable benefits. See, you can be a model citizen following religious concepts, but that won't end your particular loneliness and suffering because people these days feel you are only entitled of companionship if you are physically attractive or wealthy, no matter how good your deeds are, by religious definitions regular people are basically spawns of satan who deny you intimate affection for shallow and materialistic reasons, religion tried to enforce that away for a long time and has been failing miserably.

"Be good, fair, forgiving and kind" is common sense for good relations with people, you don't need to worship or believe in unproven entities and metaphysical shit to know you need behave acceptably.

In my opinion being irreligious is part of what makes someone truly blackpilled, as with the blackpill you deal with proven facts with practical reasoning, something that unproven beliefs does not provide and will never benefit you.
 
Even if you completely ignore the social part religion is completely useless.

On the surface I agree but what if there is some key idea amongst religions that has been forgotten over time?

Would it not be worth exploring religions to see if such a core idea exists?

Some ancient Greeks even complained that Plato was too modern for their time and that he had forgotten the key idea of the Greek Mysteries. Neo-platonism was an attempt to rediscovery long lost forgotten truths.

A Blackpiller has finally rejected the consensus of normies and looked with open eyes at the foid situation. Don't incels also owe it to themselves to take the same approach with religion?
 
A Blackpiller has finally rejected the consensus of normies and looked with open eyes at the foid situation. Don't incels also owe it to themselves to take the same approach with religion?
Blackpill have its roots on "facts and logic (tm)" with so many scientific papers and chadfishes over the years that translated that success is closely related good looks / good genes and that personality plays a very minor role compared to other aspects contrarily to bluepilled popular beliefs.

The only benefit religion has is "fear of the unknown" that served as the basis of conservative societies in the past that kept people through history in check (priotizing the traditional family structure) especially shallow and promiscuous women, but the elements surrounding faith and theism is completely baseless, irrational and unproven.
 
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Islam is superior to Christianity :smonk: History shows this
 
[UWSL][UWSL]I can't believe in god after all the shit going on in this world.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
so basically
>evil exists
>therefore god doesn't exist
Doesn't make sense tbh, who said that God is good anyway? Why would you not think that this could all be God's plan? God himself could just be an evil being that enjoys watching us suffer. And In this case, we're all doomed for eternity.
 
God deniers are very often copers. That's something I've come to understand recently. So many people cope with "the world is suffering and unfairness" to say that God doesn't exist because of that. As if them not liking God or this world means he doesn't exist. They're copers. They deny truth because they don't like it the way a :bluepill: would deny hypergamy.

The bible actually covers a lot your complaints. Don't deny reality (that Christianity is the truth) just cause you don't like it and/or understand it that well. Don't be a coper. Deal with reality and get saved so you don't go to hell. Salvation is free. You can see it in my signature.

I came to this truth after many years of truth seeking and being very blackpilled and it surprised how much the bible knew about truth and blackpill as well as many other things. It talks about the bible being the final truth and how a sad (and contemplating) man is much more likely to find the truth than a person enjoying "the song of fools" (a normie npc). I could make a thread on this.
God doesn't exist not because evil exists, but because believing that God exists is no different than believing that Bigfoot or Santa Claus or any other fictional character exists.
There is no possible way you can disprove the existence of Bigfoot or Santa Claus yet you don't believe in them, why? because simply there's no evidence or trace of their existence in the real world. So why would you not apply the same concept to the invisible big daddy of the sky that is called "God"?
 
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how can you cope with religion/god after seeing so much suffering and pain and unfairness every day in this shitty world?
Because the end times were forewarned in the gospel, and the way to salvation is the way of martyrdom. Remember that this world is cursed.
God doesn't exist not because evil exists, but because believing that God exists is no different than believing that Bigfoot or Santa Claus or any other fictional character exists.
There is no possible way you can disprove the existence of Bigfoot or Santa Claus yet you don't believe in them, why? because simply there's no evidence or trace of their existence in the real world. So why would you not apply the same concept to the invisible big daddy of the sky that is called "God"?
This is like an argument that a kindergartener would make. Read the gospel then if you want to know what the belief is about instead of using a strawman argument
 
Because my life has a intrisic value.
Amen.

how can you cope with religion/god after seeing so much suffering and pain and unfairness every day in this shitty world?
The tue question is, how can you perceive, judge and be bothered by such unfairness? Might it be because you were created by a God who imbued you with such values?

Bad things are an opportunity for us to do good.
 
I used to believe this. But I learned what man's life has no intrinsic value. Even believers will look down on you if you didn't perform well as a male.
 
Blackpill have its roots on "facts and logic (tm)" with so many scientific papers and chadfishes over the years that translated that success is closely related good looks / good genes and that personality plays a very minor role compared to other aspects contrarily to bluepilled popular beliefs.

The only benefit religion has is "fear of the unknown" that served as the basis of conservative societies in the past that kept people through history in check (priotizing the traditional family structure) especially shallow and promiscuous women, but the elements surrounding faith and theism is completely baseless, irrational and unproven.

I don't deny mainstream religions seem to lack merit but dig deeper and they may be a core idea that has been lost in time.

Derivation of the Blackpill is an example of the use of explicit knowledge whereas religion is more like tacit knowledge which is more difficult to transfer, hence the metaphors and parables in the New Testament.
 
This is like an argument that a kindergartener would make. Read the gospel then if you want to know what the belief is about instead of using a strawman argument
If I'm really wrong, please tell me the difference between

>Believer: Bigfoot exists!
>Skeptic: Proof?
>Believer: Read this millennia-old book and you will find out!

and

>Believer: God exists!
>Skeptic: Proof?
>Believer: Read this millennia-old book and you will find out!
 
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Please tell me the difference between

>Believer: Bigfoot exists!
>Skeptic: Proof?
>Believer: Read this millennia-old book and you will find out!

and

>Believer: God exists!
>Skeptic: Proof?
>Believer: Read this millennia-old book and you will find out!
Bigfoot is a hypothetical creature that doesn't exist outside of the context of finding a rare spectacular animal.

God, as the Father of Jesus is known through the testimony in the gospel, which is a historical account. It has nothing to do with a sky daddy stereotype as you stated earlier. There is testimony of Jesus performing many exorcisms and healing people, and performing miracles such as having control over nature.

The nature of the two is fundamentally different. You are creating a strawman argument.
 
Bigfoot is a hypothetical creature that doesn't exist outside of the context of finding a rare spectacular animal.

God, as the Father of Jesus is known through the testimony in the gospel, which is a historical account. It has nothing to do with a sky daddy stereotype as you stated earlier. There is testimony of Jesus performing many exorcisms and healing people, and performing miracles such as having control over nature.

The nature of the two is fundamentally different. You are creating a strawman argument.
What makes you think that these are valid testimonies? No actual historian has ever come out and confirmed that these events really did take place. There's no trace of these supernatural events other than gospel. Every religion has so-called "testimonies" of its prophets and gods, for example, there are many islamic testimonies of Muhammed healing the sick, going invisible, communicating with animals, and even splitting the moon. In ancient egypt, there are testimonies of the god "Ra" traveling across the sky every day in a burning boat. In ancient greece, there was something called the asclepeion, these were healing temples that were named after the god of medicine "asclepius" who was said to be a doctor that performed miracles like raising people from the dead back to life, he was portrayed as a public hero at the time. There are even claimed sightings of bigfoot, people who claim that they actually saw the creature, like the group of campers at marble mountain who claim that they have encountered bigfoot, or the british explorer who claimed to have found a yeti while hiking in the himalayas, he even took a picture of a huge footprint that is alleged to be a yeti's footprint. Testimonies and claimed sightings of anything exist, yet there's no evidence that these are valid and honest testimonies. Non of these testimonies were confirmed to be true by actual historians, people who have devoted their life to the unbiased study of human history.
 
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What makes you think that these are valid testimonies? No actual historian has ever come out and confirmed that these events really did take place. There's no trace of these supernatural events other than gospel. Every religion has so-called "testimonies" of its prophets and gods, for example, there are many islamic testimonies of Muhammed healing the sick, going invisible, communicating with animals, and even splitting the moon. In ancient egypt, there are testimonies of the god "Ra" traveling across the sky every day in a burning boat. In ancient greece, there was something called the asclepeion, these were healing temples that were named after the god of medicine "asclepius" who was said to be a doctor that performed miracles like raising people from the dead back to life, he was portrayed as a public hero at the time. There are even claimed sightings of bigfoot, people who claim that they actually saw the creature, like the group of campers at marble mountain who claim that they have encountered bigfoot, or the british explorer who claimed to have found a yeti while hiking in the himalayas, he even took a picture of a huge footprint that is alleged to be a yeti's footprint. Testimonies and claimed sightings of anything exist, yet there's no evidence that these are valid and honest testimonies. Non of these testimonies were confirmed to be true by actual historians, people who have devoted their life to the unbiased study of human history.
Historians have a very limited methodology as well, what they can show doesn't give the ultimate answer on the topic. But reading the gospel it is clear that it reads as a historical document. It's writing style actually has a tendency to record things as factually as possible. It would not make sense for some parts of it to be made up because it does not fit the style of the document. If you read the parables by Jesus if is clear that it is from a whole different understanding than agressive ideologies like buddhism, islam and others that preceded it and came after it. Based on the wisdom that he taught it would not be weird at all that he could actually heal the sick. Man was made in the image of God. It could be that metaphysically things just work a little bit different than we currently like to think. There are multiple ways of understanding things, and just because we can't measure anything about metaphysics doesn't mean that everything that is unproven is automatically wrong. We have a very clear qualitative account (the gospel) that gives in my opinion reason to question whether these things are possible. Jesus also said in the gospel that his followers were blessed, precisely because they had seen the miracles that he performed. People that will come afterwards will not be blessed in that way and will have to do it with just testimony. But if you understand the parables in the gospel, you see that you have two contradictory truths. You can't just abandon the gospel because it seems physically implausible, because physics is far from being completely explained and there could be a metaphysical account that gives justification for it. In this perspective God made the universe so we could live there, but the image of God, man, still stands at the center.

As to why the parables are "valid", consider matthew 7

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Things are not black and white. The contents of the gospel can be judged qualitatively.
 
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You can't just abandon the gospel because it seems physically implausible, because physics is far from being completely explained and there could be a metaphysical account that gives justification for it.
You misunderstood my point. It's not because its physically implausible. it's because there's no way to make sure these events mentioned in gospel actually took place in the real world, whether they are physically implausible or not.
But reading the gospel it is clear that it reads as a historical document.
No one said it's not a historical document, the real question and concern is whether it's a valid/trusted historical document or not.
It's writing style actually has a tendency to record things as factually as possible.
Muslims say the exact same thing about The Quran and Hadith.
There are multiple ways of understanding things, and just because we can't measure anything about metaphysics doesn't mean that everything that is unproven is automatically wrong.
Also It doesn't mean that everything that is unproven is somehow right, you can neither believe or not believe in a thing that isn't proven.

People that will come afterwards will not be blessed in that way and will have to do it with just testimony.
Isn't that unfair? Doesn't that mean God is unfair? It's unfair that the followers who came afterwards are not as blessed as the ones who witnessed the miracles just because they were born at a different time. And the problem doesn't really stem from him being unjust to his followers, it's more about the fact that him being unjust totally contradicts the religious scripture where it says that he is fair and just.
Psalm 25:8 "God is fair and just; He corrects the misdirected, Sends them in the right direction."

You can try and argue that this is God's way to test his followers, which totally makes sense. But it still doesn't change the fact that God is being unfair towards his followers/humans (even if it's a way to test them) which contradicts Pslam 25:8 and many other verses.

People like me who are "Misdirected" because we were born after the miracles, God should be sending us on the right path just like he sent the other followers on the right path when he revealed his divine power and miracles to them. But that's not what's happening.
 
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You misunderstood my point. It's not because its physically implausible. it's because there's no way to make sure these events mentioned in gospel actually took place in the real world, whether they are physically implausible or not.

No one said it's not a historical document, the real question and concern is whether it's a valid/trusted historical document or not.

Muslims say the exact same thing about The Quran and Hadith.

Also It doesn't mean that everything that is unproven is somehow right, you can neither believe or not believe in a thing that isn't proven.


Isn't that unfair? Doesn't that mean God is unfair? It's unfair that the followers who came afterwards are not as blessed as the ones who witnessed the miracles just because they were born at a different time. And the problem doesn't really stem from him being unjust to his followers, it's more about the fact that him being unjust totally contradicts the religious scripture where it says that he is fair and just.
Psalm 25:8 "God is fair and just; He corrects the misdirected, Sends them in the right direction."

You can try and argue that this is God's way to test his followers, which totally makes sense. But it still doesn't change the fact that God is being unfair towards his followers/humans (even if it's a way to test them) which contradicts Pslam 25:8 and many other verses.

People like me who are "Misdirected" because we were born after the miracles, God should be sending us on the right path just like he sent the other followers on the right path when he revealed his divine power and miracles to them. But that's not what's happening.
It is not the same as being unjust. There are limits to how things can be arranged physically, and Jesus was born in a different time. So obviously you could not record proof, in the best case you would have video proof but you didn't have that it that time. Also because a person has not read the gospel doesn't mean a person is not a believer. It can be that a person has lived according to the Word imparted on them by different means than the gospel. Basically it is possible that people have just followed their heart or intuition. The best thing we have right now is the gospel. You don't have to read the whole bible, you can just read Matthew, and then the teachings will be imparted on you as well. You can believe it even it is on proven on the basis of the sayings in the gospel. If you think there is truth to them, then you could infer that the miracles are also true. But if people follow their he heart and feelings and keep courage they might not get caught in the trap of the world. Like the gospel and revelation also say, every person will fall back on their works. But is also means that the world as it is has to be endured. It cannot be gained and there are no winners. The only way is through martyrdom. The same as how the world has hated Christ without grounds and persecuted him for it, but he suffered it to fulfill his fate and so that he could save others.
 

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