I still claim that; if a girl initiates a friendship with a guy it is in all probability a sign she is attracted, at least subconsciously, from the get-go; if you're still cuck-zoned after making a move it means you're fucked and too ugly, but at the very least not completely repulsive to her. Anyway, I do not have the time, nor resources, to spend 8 years orbiting a single woman, and I'm not getting prettier by the day either.