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Can't bring myself to looksmax

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No motivation. I'm starting out as subhuman and have to undergo expensive surgeries for my jaw, chin, cheeks, nose and eyebrow ridge. Besides that I also have to become a disciplined person gymcelling, counting macros, using random oils on my eyebrows, wearing whitestrips every day. I'll also have to wear colored lenses and shoe lifts which might damage my body in the long term.

And if I want to actually do something with my looksmax I'll have to find social circles. No idea how to do that, there don't seem to be any candidates.


Honestly, is it even worth it? I don't even think I'll get any results.
 
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Do you want to get laid or not?
 
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Of course it's worth it.

Everyone is looksmaxing in 2017. You're falling way too far behind if you're not. Women get fatter and lazier; men get better looking and more fit. "muh body acceptance."
 
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Nautica1983 said:
Do you want to get laid or not?

Do I want to force myself to do tons of shit for likely no results? Didn't know there were any optimists here.
 
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If you think that a glorified onahole is worth all that time and money then go for it.
 
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Waste of time and money. Lookmaxing ain't worth shit unless you're a fat cunt.
 
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I don't feel like looksmaxing either. It's hopeless anyway. Once you are Incel, you are Incel forever.
 
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CamelBlueFilters said:
If you think that a glorified onahole is worth all that time and money then go for it.

It's more about the validation. Anyone can escortcel.
 
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Self-improvement is one thing, but changing your entire face is going a bit too far. It's like trying to fix a broken CPU on a laptop, it's not worth paying £200 for a repair when it would cost you less to just buy a laptop. You could fix it but whats the point?
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
Do I want to force myself to do tons of shit for likely no results? Didn't know there were any optimists here.

Just try it and see what happens, what do you have to lose? Just don't try anything extreme. Do the basics. Lift, stylish haircut, dark stubble beard
 
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Nautica1983 said:
Just try it and see what happens, what do you have to lose?

Tons of money, time and a permanent burnout


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Self-improvement is one thing, but changing your entire face is going a bit too far. It's like trying to fix a broken CPU on a laptop, it's not worth paying £200 for a repair when it would cost you less to just buy a laptop. You could fix it but whats the point?

The self improvement they talk about on Reddit is total bs. Find hobbies? What kind of retard shit is that? What I described was legitimate, but the cost and effort may be too high for the (lack of) reward.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
Tons of money, time and a permanent burnout



The self improvement they talk about on Reddit is total bs. Find hobbies? What kind of retard shit is that? What I described was legitimate, but the cost and effort may be too high for the (lack of) reward.



You're not incel until you've looksmaxed.
 
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Looksmaxing is really worth it only if you're already 6+ imo.

Otherwise it probably won't save you.

Also, beware of the unexpected negative effects of looksmaxxing.

I've known incel Chadlites who were actually more fucked up psychologically than me by their inceldom. I'm talking enormous depression, neurosis, self-blaming. Why? Because when you're 8/10 and still incel, you don't have an excuse anymore.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
Tons of money, time and a permanent burnout

I mean if you can afford plastic surgery I'd do it, but have you done the basics yet? Gymceling, stylish haircut, mewing and dark stubble beard?
 
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Nautica1983 said:
Just try it and see what happens, what do you have to lose? Just don't try anything extreme. Do the basics. Lift, stylish haircut, dark stubble beard

That won't influence my face all that much. Extreme measures need to be taken for truecels like me.


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I mean if you can afford plastic surgery I'd do it, but have you done the basics yet? Gymceling, stylish haircut, mewing and dark stubble beard?

Up until recently. Keeping it up or giving up didn't change a thing.


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Looksmaxing is really worth it only if you're already 6+ imo.

Otherwise it probably won't save you.

Also, beware of the unexpected negative effects of looksmaxxing.

I've known incel Chadlites who were actually more fucked up psychologically than me by their inceldom. I'm talking enormous depression, neurosis, self-blaming. Why? Because when you're 8/10 and still incel, you don't have an excuse anymore.

My mental state is beyond saving.


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Self-improvement is one thing, but changing your entire face is going a bit too far. It's like trying to fix a broken CPU on a laptop, it's not worth paying £200 for a repair when it would cost you less to just buy a laptop. You could fix it but whats the point?

Reincarnation theory? Time to sui xd


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You're not incel until you've looksmaxed.

Inceldom puts tons of pressure on your mentality. Human psychology can't handle it that well, which leads to no motivation.
 
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Only thing that makes me want to looksmax is that I actually had confirmation that women wanted me when I was fit, but I was just too much of a mentalcel to take advantage of it. Looksmaxing is a lot of effort, yeah, but it is only like a year of your time at most and if you aren't a truecel, the payoff will most likely be worth it.

I don't think any incel can complain if they aren't deformed and haven't looksmaxed.
 
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Fontaine said:
I've known incel Chadlites who were actually more fucked up psychologically than me by their inceldom. I'm talking enormous depression, neurosis, self-blaming. Why? Because when you're 8/10 and still incel, you don't have an excuse anymore.

hmmm

elaborate?
 
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All or nothing theory

How old are you by the way? Just trying to see how long you got before you become an oldcel

18, so no puberty for me, this is what I'm stuck with.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
18, so no puberty for me, this is what I'm stuck with.

Don't assume things so quickly. I was 2/10 when I was 18. Now 22 I am 5.5/10 but of course it depends on genetics.
 
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I'd say it's worth it because your looks affect everything in life not just attracting women.
 
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Enigmatic93 said:
I'd say it's worth it because your looks affect everything in life not just attracting women.

Certainly. It's sad that nobody acknowledges this.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
18, so no puberty for me, this is what I'm stuck with.

You still have a few more years of puberty left boyo. Men don't finish purberty until around 21 give or take about a year.
 
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CamelBlueFilters said:
Don't assume things so quickly. I was 2/10 when I was 18. Now 22 I am 5.5/10 but of course it depends on genetics.

Highly doubtful for most people. You're a 1/1000 case if you gain 3.5 points that late


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You still have a few more years of puberty left boyo. Men don't finish purberty until around 21 give or take about a year.

I've seen photos of difference. There was hardly any, only normies starting to style better. I have no problem with that, it's my bone structure
 
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Meanwhile Chad is born good looking, you have to mutilate yourself to get accepted by society just lol.
 
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It's up to you man, depends how much you value fucking cock carousel riding roasties. Personally I'd only correct legit deformities so that people at least treat me normal, but I am already somewhat average looking so I get treated like a normie. I might try to fix my overbite and one slightly crooked front tooth but that's about it for me. I'm already pretty much going my own way, not gonna invest tens of thousands in a desperate hope to attract some roasties. Just no way.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
No motivation. I'm starting out as subhuman and have to undergo expensive surgeries for my jaw, chin, cheeks, nose and eyebrow ridge. Besides that I also have to become a disciplined person gymcelling, counting macros, using random oils on my eyebrows, wearing whitestrips every day. I'll also have to wear colored lenses and shoe lifts which might damage my body in the long term.

And if I want to actually do something with my looksmax I'll have to find social circles. No idea how to do that, there don't seem to be any candidates.


Honestly, is it even worth it? I don't even think I'll get any results.
I feel the same bro. I gained 20lbs past couple of months due to depression and binge eating. I don't feel undergoing all this suffering to become a low tier normie is worth it. Might as well enjoy the food
 
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What's the point? A polished shit is still a shit...
 
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CamelBlueFilters said:
If you think that a glorified onahole is worth all that time and money then go for it.

Women are just a small part of what looks give you in life
 
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Zyros said:
Women are just a small part of what looks give you in life

The real blackpill that even less normies want to acknowledge


JovanD said:
What's the point? A polished shit is still a shit...

Yep... Can't bring myself to sui either.


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I feel the same bro. I gained 20lbs past couple of months due to depression and binge eating. I don't feel undergoing all this suffering to become a low tier normie is worth it. Might as well enjoy the food

I'm a lanket but I finally got some acne from all the garbage I've been eating


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Meanwhile Chad is born good looking, you have to mutilate yourself to get accepted by society just lol.

Proves that there's no (good) godlike figure.


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It's up to you man, depends how much you value fucking cock carousel riding roasties. Personally I'd only correct legit deformities so that people at least treat me normal, but I am already somewhat average looking so I get treated like a normie. I might try to fix my overbite and one slightly crooked front tooth but that's about it for me. I'm already pretty much going my own way, not gonna invest tens of thousands in a desperate hope to attract some roasties. Just no way.

I'm nowhere near that level man... People treat me like shit.
 
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Zyros said:
CamelBlueFilters said:
If you think that a glorified onahole is worth all that time and money then go for it.
Women are just a small part of what looks give you in life
englithen me, what?

what could even me more important than prime women?
 
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skinnyfat said:
englithen me, what?

what could even me more important than prime women?

Prime women are up there

But so are being automatically treated better by everyone

Having your actions look enhanced by the halo effect

It's a whole other way of living
 
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skinnyfat said:
englithen me, what?

what could even me more important than prime women?

Every aspect of life which requires human interaction is heavily influenced and determined by your looks. From the love of your parents, to your success in workplace, to what would happen to you when facing justice court, for example.
 
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Zyros said:
Every aspect of life which requires human interaction is heavily influenced and determined by your looks. From the love of your parents, to your success in workplace, to what would happen to you when facing justice court, for example.

I think most parents have a tendency to love their kids regardless of looks. Parents will also think that their children are much better looking than they are, as they are their genetic offspring.
 
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CopingGymcel said:
I think most parents have a tendency to love their kids regardless of looks. Parents will also think that their children are much better looking than they are, as they are their genetic offspring.

Yep, can't blackpill my parents
 
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I think most parents have a tendency to love their kids regardless of looks. Parents will also think that their children are much better looking than they are, as they are their genetic offspring.

There are studies in how parents take better care of better looking children: More affection, better care of diet, better care of education, more security like being sure seatbelts are on point in a car, everything.

Looks truly determine everything.
 
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Zyros said:
There are studies in how parents take better care of better looking children: More affection, better care of diet, better care of education, more security like being sure seatbelts are on point in a car, everything.

Looks truly determine everything.

That's not true for my parents at least. They treat me and my brother equally. My parents help me out with too much shit. They probably shouldn't and should have been much harsher on me.
 
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That's not true for my parents at least. They treat me and my brother equally. My parents help me out with too much shit. They probably shouldn't and should have been much harsher on me.

My younger brother is a slayer but he had police problems before because he was dealing at school. My parents treat him worse and he knows.
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
skinnyfat said:
englithen me, what?
what could even me more important than prime women?
Prime women are up there
But so are being automatically treated better by everyone
Having your actions look enhanced by the halo effect
It's a whole other way of living
Zyros said:
skinnyfat said:
englithen me, what?
what could even me more important than prime women?
Every aspect of life which requires human interaction is heavily influenced and determined by your looks. From the love of your parents, to your success in workplace, to what would happen to you when facing justice court, for example.

This would mean most successful people are necessarily good-looking what we know isn't true

Guys don't really care about other guys looks unless you're really ugly, not if you're average or below average, I'm incel af but I'm treated nicely by people because I have a HIGH TRUST face, not a good-looking, hot face
 
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skinnyfat said:
This would mean most successful people are necessarily good-looking what we know isn't true

Guys don't really care about other guys looks unless you're really ugly, not if you're average or below average, I'm incel af but I'm treated nicely by people because I have a HIGH TRUST face, not a good-looking, hot face

There's a correlation

Most CEOs are 6 feet for example

May seem like a small one but such a pattern is actually a big deal
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
Prime women are up there

But so are being automatically treated better by everyone

Having your actions look enhanced by the halo effect

It's a whole other way of living


What's not natural is not worth getting. I will give u a small example bro. In high school I used to study 30mins a day while my friend use to study like 5 hours. At the end I used to end up top of my class while she barely passed the class. It's the same for us vs chads. U need to work so hard to just pass and become a low tier normie. The game is vastly in your disavantage. Now it's up to you to figure out if all the struggle is worth "just passing" in life. For me I really feel it's not anymore. Average is really bad these days. If you're average you get a shitty job, shitty relationships, shitty salaries ect... The world has no place for average people anymore and the world itself is shit. The fact that you have to strugglt this much to just be average is just silly. It's the same for this girl bk in highschool. If she went STEM she would have suffered so much and wpuld probably fail many classes and end up in a shitty job anyway.

Sometimes it's just better to focus on your strong areas rather than kill yourself to improve the bad ones. We are not created equal and hard work means shit (see my high school example).
 
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What's not natural is not worth getting. I will give u a small example bro. In high school I used to study 30mins a day while my friend use to study like 5 hours. At the end I used to end up top of my class while she barely passed the class. It's the same for us vs chads. U need to work so hard to just pass and become a low tier normie. The game is vastly in your disavantage. Now it's up to you to figure out if all the struggle is worth "just passing" in life. For me I really feel it's not anymore. Average is really bad these days. If you're average you get a shitty job, shitty relationships, shitty salaries ect... The world has no place for average people anymore and the world itself is shit. The fact that you have to strugglt this much to just be average is just silly. It's the same for this girl bk in highschool. If she went STEM she would have suffered so much and wpuld probably fail many classes and end up in a shitty job anyway.

Sometimes it's just better to focus on your strong areas rather than kill yourself to improve the bad ones. We are not created equal and hard work means shit (see my high school example).

My rational mind knows that getting a girl isn't possible, but my emotional mind can't accept it.

I have no strong points actually

  • Average intelligence
  • Finish my college assignments last minute with average grades
  • No hobbies, not even incel ones like games or anime
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
My rational mind knows that getting a girl isn't possible, but my emotional mind can't accept it.

I have no strong points actually

  • Average intelligence
  • Finish my college assignments last minute with average grades
  • No hobbies, not even incel ones like games or anime

You see this is a problem. You have no talents or above average qualities. If your only objective in life is getting pussy I guess that spending so much on looksmaxing can be worth it. The problem is, what doesn't come naturally is often time useless. For instance, plastic surgery might look weird and unatural. It could hurt you more than your current situation. Same goes for personality. When you try to make up confidence, bad boy attitude ect, it comes off as unatural and cringy. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try to looksmax see if you get lucky with a sub5 female. But no matter what you do she will never lust after you or desire your deeply. We lust after 8+ be it male or female. Average just means your eyes won't hurt after you see his/her face.

Anyway bro, to each his own.
 
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Celcelleclec said:
You see this is a problem. You have no talents or above average qualities. If your only objective in life is getting pussy I guess that spending so much on looksmaxing can be worth it. The problem is, what doesn't come naturally is often time useless. For instance, plastic surgery might look weird and unatural. It could hurt you more than your current situation. Same goes for personality. When you try to make up confidence, bad boy attitude ect, it comes off as unatural and cringy. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try to looksmax see if you get lucky with a sub5 female. But no matter what you do she will never lust after you or desire your deeply. We lust after 8+ be it male or female. Average just means your eyes won't hurt after you see his/her face.

Anyway bro, to each his own.

Yeah because personality is built from experience and confidence from validation

I'd love a sub5 female but it's not possible still

Too pussy to kms too

I got cucked by luck man
 
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Yeah because personality is built from experience and confidence from validation

I'd love a sub5 female but it's not possible still

Too pussy to kms too

I got cucked by luck man

Idk man if you fail it's not too bad. You save money because no dates ect and you can just watch great porn and fap. It's w.e really. Fuck everything.
 
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To be honest, it's not worth it. All this money spent so you can get a GF that will cheat on you with the first chad she sees? Don't do it because of this.

I recommend getting in shape, haircut, dress well, etc., so you can get a job and a career, but going throught physical pain to please some femoid who didn't suffered 1/100 of what you suffered, no fucking way my man, that is dumb af
 
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To be honest, it's not worth it. All this money spent so you can get a GF that will cheat on you with the first chad she sees? Don't do it because of this.

I recommend getting in shape, haircut, dress well, etc., so you can get a job and a career, but going throught physical pain to please some femoid who didn't suffered 1/100 of what you suffered, no fucking way my man, that is dumb af

I'm in IT and there's plenty of legit autists who don't know what a shower is so luckily I don't have to

Also theres nothing I can do about it tbh, I got born fucked
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
18, so no puberty for me, this is what I'm stuck with.

It gets better in your early 20's, you get more masculine. Not saying it will save you if you're have recessed chin and other severe incel characteristics, but it definetely gets better if you work on it, do what I recommend in my post, start with the basic stuff, lift, get in shape, then see what happens.
 
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anon_899 said:
It gets better in your early 20's, you get more masculine. Not saying it will save you if you're have recessed chin and other severe incel characteristics, but it definetely gets better if you work on it, do what I recommend in my post, start with the basic stuff, lift, get in shape, then see what happens.

Recessed chin is my trademark and puberty's truly finished up physically, can't bluepill myself hope man
 
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Anglo-Saxon said:
I'm in IT and there's plenty of legit autists who don't know what a shower is so luckily I don't have to

Also theres nothing I can do about it tbh, I got born fucked

Care to PM me a pic? I'm in IT too, but my country is so normiefied IT is also full of chads, maybe if I lose weight I have chance, it's what I'm working on right now.
 
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Care to PM me a pic? I'm in IT too, but my country is so normiefied IT is also full of chads, maybe if I lose weight I have chance, it's what I'm working on right now.

I never post pics anywhere and don't need the "ur still young xd" meme

I can describe it though

  • Lanket
  • Small frame
  • Low body fat
  • WASP coloring
  • Recessed chin
  • Recessed maxilla
  • No cheekbones
  • Below average eye area
 

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