Bluepilled normie friend not giving up hope after 300 first dates from Tinder

[WizardofSoda]

My dedicated bluepiller friend has been trying to convince me to get into online dating. This guy was showing me the results of 2 years of online dating, and trying to convince me how good it is, and why I should join up.

First off to describe him, he is 5'11, early 30's, framelet, with above average face. Basically he is in good shape, his only flaw is his small frame/shoulders. He has had long term girlfriends, including 3 live in girlfriends before, including an 8/10 stacy-lite. But with Tinder his long term girlfriend left him and is now riding tall Chads. This while his income has been rising, he now makes ~$130k USD a year.

He was showing me his profile and basically he picture frauds to make himself look way bigger than he is. Like the pictures are taken from a low angle looking up at him, and he is close to the camera with objects further away making him look 'big'. He also claims he is 6'0, on the pictures. Which he is something like 5'11.5 and with lifts he appears comfortably over 6'0. He also uses the pictures to make himself look interesting like when he went on vacations with his former girlfriends. So he has prior validation and likes 'travelling'. He also prominently has his income on his Tinder.

Anyway the guy has some sort of autistic focus on getting a girlfriend(plus family pressure and pressure from other friends ribbing him why he is single), so he has been going on 4 or sometimes even more first dates per week. I asked him what he was doing this Saturday and he said hes got a date in the afternoon with one girl, then a dinner date with a different girl from Tinder. He has been on more than 300 first dates in the last 2 years. Of which he has had ~15 second dates, and just 3 third dates, and 0 beyond that. No sex, and he is bragging telling me he kissed several girls after their first date.

My friend says 'its just a numbers game'. He also spends 2-3 hours per day messaging women in addition to all the dates he goes on. He showed me some of the conversations and he is like the perfect beta male gentleman in the chats.

I think the problem is with his income, pictures, prior validation he is good enough for the women to give him a chance(aka way beyond what we could ever dream of). The women might also think his super polite, nice guy thing in chat is just him pretending to be nice to get in their panties, so give him a chance. But then when they meet him, find out he is a nice guy, and find out he is more a 5 or 6/10, than a 8/10 like his pictures show, they just aren't sexually attracted.

Also one serious flaw is one too many for women today.

 

[The Incel Decade]

A sub 8 male on online dating today is on a losing game unless he's prepared to date landwhales or beta bux a single mom.

If you picture fraud then a girl will ghost you because of projection. They hate you doing what they do.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

He has had long term girlfriends, including 3 live in girlfriends before, including an 8/10 stacy-lite.

Stopped reading hear. You need to stop worrying about him, he will be fine in general.

 

[WizardofSoda]

A sub 8 male on online dating today is on a losing game unless he's prepared to date landwhales or beta bux a single mom.

If you picture fraud then a girl will ghost you because of projection. They hate you doing what they do.

You have a high level understanding of the current reality. As your post predicts, he is not willing to be a beta bux for a single mom for another guy's kid(s), and he doesn't respond to or message landwhales.

 

[The Incel Decade]

You have a high level understanding of the current reality. As your post predicts, he is not willing to be a beta bux for a single mom for another guy's kid(s), and he doesn't respond to or message landwhales.

Which keeps him in the cycle he's in of endless dates that go nowhere and if he stops picture frauding he'll only match with landwhales because of 80/20.

Until men like your friend walk away from a losing game en masse then it'll only get worse. A lot of men in desparation will beta bux a single mom or find a landwhale.

 

[Deleted member 21514]

kinda 8/10, 5'11, good salary guy can't get laid on tinder lmao. and people say i should install tinder when i'm a 2/10 useless neet

 

[Glokta]

Your friend unfortunately overdosed on bluepills. What he does is insanity, pure and simple. He keeps doing the exact same thing, over and over again, and expects different results. That is crazy.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Your friend unfortunately overdosed on bluepills. What he does is insanity, pure and simple. He keeps doing the exact same thing, over and over again, and expects different results. That is crazy.

Its painful how bluepilled this guy is. I told him about some of the Chadfishing experiments and he said he thinks that is just incels faking the results.

Which keeps him in the cycle he's in of endless dates that go nowhere and if he stops picture frauding he'll only match with landwhales because of 80/20.

Until men like your friend walk away from a losing game en masse then it'll only get worse. A lot of men in desparation will beta bux a single mom or find a landwhale.

He thinks that by lowering his standards to like 2 or 3/10 in looks girls but who are a normal bodyweight or not that overweight, that is going far enough. Even though he has a large sample size now to show that his theory is not true, he won't admit it.

I think if I was him, as he has a very strong need to be in a relationship, what I would do is find a single mom who i liked. Its starting to take its toll on him being single, like he is extroverted by nature and often those guys can't be alone.

I wish I was attractive enough even to get like a single Mom who had 2 kids from another guy as my girlfriend.

 

[ionlycopenow]

A sub 8 male on online dating today is on a losing game unless he's prepared to date landwhales or beta bux a single mom.

If you picture fraud then a girl will ghost you because of projection. They hate you doing what they do.

The irony is that girls only angle fraud and makeup fraud too. Have never seen a girl look better in person, ever. Happens alot with dudes though.

 

[Player]

Numbers game indeed. Numbers are 130 000. What a load of fuck.

 

[RollD20]

Just go through 3.5 billion femoids bro I am sure he will find someone.

 

[JestER]

So many lettercels ITT, also stop being friends with cucks

 

[WizardofSoda]

Numbers game indeed. Numbers are 130 000. What a load of fuck.

Ya, its amazing the lengths of self-delusion men will go to in order to avoid the emotional pain of the blackpill.

Like after 100 first dates and no relationship you would think he would start questioning things. I would after 3 or 4 dates and no results.

Just go through 3.5 billion femoids bro I am sure he will find someone.

Something he is trying that I was able to infer is he is expanding the radius of his search. I figured this out as he started going to a city 100 miles away for dates. Round trip it takes around 5 hours driving to get there and back.

 

[redditrapist]

I suspect that a majority of the 300 foids just went with him on a date to get a free dinner. This is very common, and rich men are especially vulnerable to that. Foids are parasites, fundamentally, and they will exploit everyone and anyone for their own gain. So he is boasting of 300 dates, but that's only because he is offering a nice free meal. One day, he will settle for some used up old foid.

 

[Blacktarpill]

Its a waste of time, he should spend his money on escorts.

 

[Iamquiteugly]

How can you fraud to an 8/10 from a 5-6? Also post what a 5-6 looks like in your opinion

 

[Deleted member 20811]

5'11" with slightly above average face is not enough in 2019. 6'2"+ wideframe 8/10+ chads only.

 

[gylo]

Wtf I thought 6' was enough. Is 6'5" the new Manley cutoff?

And how TF is a well off normie getting no sex after trying so hard? Is being nice really that much of a handicap?

 

[Deleted member 4159]

300 dates? What a fucking waste. I don't understand richcels that blow their money on women.

 

[ovrload]

its a numbers game bro! just need to work harder bro!

 

[iblamemyself]

Family pressure needs to stop. Send your friend his own way, let him enjoy his massive earnings.

 

[theundeadburg]

My dedicated bluepiller friend has been trying to convince me to get into online dating. This guy was showing me the results of 2 years of online dating, and trying to convince me how good it is, and why I should join up.

First off to describe him, he is 5'11, early 30's, framelet, with above average face. Basically he is in good shape, his only flaw is his small frame/shoulders. He has had long term girlfriends, including 3 live in girlfriends before, including an 8/10 stacy-lite. But with Tinder his long term girlfriend left him and is now riding tall Chads. This while his income has been rising, he now makes ~$130k USD a year.

He was showing me his profile and basically he picture frauds to make himself look way bigger than he is. Like the pictures are taken from a low angle looking up at him, and he is close to the camera with objects further away making him look 'big'. He also claims he is 6'0, on the pictures. Which he is something like 5'11.5 and with lifts he appears comfortably over 6'0. He also uses the pictures to make himself look interesting like when he went on vacations with his former girlfriends. So he has prior validation and likes 'travelling'. He also prominently has his income on his Tinder.

Anyway the guy has some sort of autistic focus on getting a girlfriend(plus family pressure and pressure from other friends ribbing him why he is single), so he has been going on 4 or sometimes even more first dates per week. I asked him what he was doing this Saturday and he said hes got a date in the afternoon with one girl, then a dinner date with a different girl from Tinder. He has been on more than 300 first dates in the last 2 years. Of which he has had ~15 second dates, and just 3 third dates, and 0 beyond that. No sex, and he is bragging telling me he kissed several girls after their first date.

My friend says 'its just a numbers game'. He also spends 2-3 hours per day messaging women in addition to all the dates he goes on. He showed me some of the conversations and he is like the perfect beta male gentleman in the chats.

I think the problem is with his income, pictures, prior validation he is good enough for the women to give him a chance(aka way beyond what we could ever dream of). The women might also think his super polite, nice guy thing in chat is just him pretending to be nice to get in their panties, so give him a chance. But then when they meet him, find out he is a nice guy, and find out he is more a 5 or 6/10, than a 8/10 like his pictures show, they just aren't sexually attracted.

Also one serious flaw is one too many for women today.

Chad doesn't need to '''try''' to find girls

 

[roboticsmaxx]

Imagine going to 300 job interviews. Where you pay $200 each time. Because that's what those dates were.

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

The fact that he has had 300 first dates through a platform like tinder proves he is not in the least incel. I can’t even get one despite currently studying a field where the outcome will be me making six figures.

 

[WizardofSoda]

5'11" with slightly above average face is not enough in 2019. 6'2"+ wideframe 8/10+ chads only.

As hypergamy gets worse.. below 6'2 is a strike against a man.

 

[HoustonOilers]

kinda 8/10, 5'11, good salary guy can't get laid on tinder lmao. and people say i should install tinder when i'm a 2/10 useless neet

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

300 dates and still no sex? Surely he must have rejected some of the foids himself? I have 5 years on tinder and zero dates, just lol if someone with 300 still cant get laid.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Does he pay for these dates? Because if he does, he has essentially become a beta provider for women without getting anything back in return JFL at this cuck.

 

[WizardofSoda]

300 dates and still no sex? Surely he must have rejected some of the foids himself? I have 5 years on tinder and zero dates, just lol if someone with 300 still cant get laid.

I have read a few articles posted here by young women who are writing about Tinder. And they get butthurt and go overly defensive about this question some men have asked them.. do you sleep with anyone from Tinder? The girls rage at that, then have a bunch of hard to believe stories about sex they were having from Tinder(hard to believe because they throw in virtue signaling in the stories).

My feeling is 'when you are taking flak, you are over target'. A brutal blackpill is I think most women at least where I live actually are not sluts. They are holding out for Chad or at least a Chadlite and a lot of these girls who are middle class and above they want a relationship before they have sex. I know a gigachad could no doubt get most of them into sex right away, but those guys are very rare.

 

[Haywire]

fucking insane.

kinda 8/10, 5'11, good salary guy can't get laid on tinder lmao. and people say i should install tinder when i'm a 2/10 useless neet

useless neet here as well JFL really at this shit life

 

[The Incel Decade]

As hypergamy gets worse.. below 6'2 is a strike against a man.

In 2019 and on Tinder foids have minimum requirements and expectations. You need to be at least 6 foot, good body, nice face, you need your own place, a decent car, a job that pays well and you need to be confident bro and NT. When he matched these 300 foids they are expecting all this but because of the photo frauding he's missing one of the requirements and therefore gets ghosted when they meet up. And even if you have all that as soon as you get mogged by someone else she matches with it's over.

A man needs to do all this, yet all a woman needs to do is look good. In reality All a foid needs to do is show up. Even looking good isn't a requirement anymore because the market is so distorted.

 

[Deleted member 19116]

He'll become a betabuck for some worn out roastie eventually. Guys like him are prime material for that.

 

[WizardofSoda]

In 2019 and on Tinder foids have minimum requirements and expectations. You need to be at least 6 foot, good body, nice face, you need your own place, a decent car, a job that pays well and you need to be confident bro and NT. When he matched these 300 foids they are expecting all this but because of the photo frauding he's missing one of the requirements and therefore gets ghosted when they meet up. And even if you have all that as soon as you get mogged by someone else she matches with it's over.

A man needs to do all this, yet all a woman needs to do is look good. In reality All a foid needs to do is show up. Even looking good isn't a requirement anymore because the market is so distorted.

Ya I agree.. because he has well below average, narrow shoulders its game over for him once they meet him. His picture frauding makes his upper body appear bigger, like leaning in to the camera and taken at an angle from below.

 

[noosesupply]

dont worry girls at that age dont know what they want yet. just give them some years to mature and they will be chasing you!

 

[WizardofSoda]

dont worry girls at that age dont know what they want yet. just give them some years to mature and they will be chasing you!

Lol.. I'm going to tell him that, (he is going on these dates women in their late 20's-mid 30's).

From his family and from his Chad co-workers he has been getting the usual platitudes as advice. Like there is a girl for everyone.. 'the early bird gets the worm', type of thing.

 

[WawelDragon1683]

301st is going to be the one, i'm sure.

 

[LitVirgin]

I dont even think most guys even get 300 matchs

 

[WizardofSoda]

Does he pay for these dates? Because if he does, he has essentially become a beta provider for women without getting anything back in return JFL at this cuck.

I'm not sure, he didn't say. I know if I was him I would try to invite the girls for a walk somewhere. As restaurants have all these big, tall, loud men who go out all the time as they get so much positive validation and also because they are mogging most men.

It would also filter out women who just want a free dinner. But here we are back to the ego playing a role. Maybe he has tried not taking them out to dinner, and then the girls just don't agree to a date at all.

 

[FinnCel]

Make tinder illegal already

 

[masterwizard]

There is a scientific principle behind what is happening here, I think it’s called the paradox of choice. Basically when we have only a small array of options to choose from, any single choice is satisfying. But when there is a huge arts to choose from, s singular choice becomes much less gratifying.

Women have 10,000 men at their fingertip which is why they never feel a spark with a normal guy.