Blackpill Bluepill makes sense

[FiveFourManlet]

The reason we are alive is to reproduce, nothing else.

Without being able to survive, you cannot reproduce, so your first rule (refer to my incel rulebook) is to survive.

The blackpill can have deadly consequences, e.g suicide.

Committing suicide means we broke the first rule in life which is to protect yourself and survive.

By committing suicide we cannot reproduce, therefore leading to our purpose not being fulfilled.

I believe the bluepill was made as a defence mechanism against the blackpill, as people that knew of the blackpill are more likely to commit suicide.

Also remember one of the rules of my incel rule book? All things happen for a reason.

I believe everyone started off knowing of the blackpill, but due to media and delusion, people deluded us with the bluepill to shield us from the truth and reduce the chances of roping.

Why do you think all those religions that date back all that way constantly go on about how women are evil and nasty?

It’s because many people were blackpilled then.

Therefore bluepill > blackpill

And we have just fucked ourselves over by exposing ourselves to this truth.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Cope

 

[AfrikanCel]

lukewarm IQ

 

[11gaijin]

True to some extent. But how does that make bluepill>blackpill

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Cope

It seems like it, but do you understand where I am coming from?
I am still blackpilled as once you know the truth, you can’t lie to yourself anymore, but maybe it wasn’t a good idea.

True to some extent. But how does that make bluepill>blackpill

Less chance of suicide, therefore able to reproduce ..

lukewarm IQ

Xplain

 

[FrothySolutions]

Wait a minute, promoting bluepilled ideology is supposed to go hard on you around here. People who accidentally show symptoms of bluepill abuse get banned, but here FiveFourManlet is invoking the bluepill deliberately, by name.

 

[Erothos]

The reason we are alive is to reproduce, nothing else.

Without being able to survive, you cannot reproduce, so your first rule (refer to my incel rulebook) is to survive.

The blackpill can have deadly consequences, e.g suicide.

Committing suicide means we broke the first rule in life which is to protect yourself and survive.

By committing suicide we cannot reproduce, therefore leading to our purpose not being fulfilled.

I believe the bluepill was made as a defence mechanism against the blackpill, as people that knew of the blackpill are more likely to commit suicide.

Also remember one of the rules of my incel rule book? All things happen for a reason.

I believe everyone started off knowing of the blackpill, but due to media and delusion, people deluded us with the bluepill to shield us from the truth and reduce the chances of roping.

Why do you think all those religions that date back all that way constantly go on about how women are evil and nasty?

It’s because many people were blackpilled then.

Therefore bluepill > blackpill

And we have just fucked ourselves over by exposing ourselves to this truth.

So islam is the truest of dark blue pill religions.
Up to 4 women per guy, only 1 guy per woman and very strict rules.

Truly the Chads religion.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Wait a minute, promoting bluepilled ideology is supposed to go hard on you around here. People who accidentally show symptoms of bluepill abuse get banned, but here FiveFourManlet is invoking the bluepill deliberately, by name.

Just explaining a viewpoint, I am still 100% blackpilled.
Once you know the truth you can’t go back.

 

[Erothos]

Wait a minute, promoting bluepilled ideology is supposed to go hard on you around here. People who accidentally show symptoms of bluepill abuse get banned, but here FiveFourManlet is invoking the bluepill deliberately, by name.

He's saying that bodybuilding forums and /fit/ boards are better than a defeatist attitude.

Reddit = women love me despite my looks

Incels.me = women care only about looks

Bodybuilding forums and /fit/ = who cares anymore, sick abs and good sex

You'd be a volcel if you believe focusing on gains and looksmaxxing shouldn't be part of incel behavior. There's a thread earlier about 5 different types of incels and the lazycel type.

That's what most of it seems to be tbqh.
Treat this site less of an isolationist board for a very secluded niche demographic but more of a playground for men to talk about their issues regarding sex life.

The site is turning way too depressing, we should strife to be like zyzz not Rodgers. The difference is Rodgers was blackpilled and couldn't even carry out the day of retribution right and zyzz is a praised figure who got laid.

 

[FrothySolutions]

It's not my wheelhouse to debate in, I'm just wondering what the mods' views are on this. I thought it was no bluepills ever.

 

[Dr. Rothschild]

He's saying that bodybuilding forums and /fit/ boards are better than a defeatist attitude.

Reddit = women love me despite my looks

Incels.me = women care only about looks

Bodybuilding forums and /fit/ = who cares anymore, sick abs and good sex

You'd be a volcel if you believe focusing on gains and looksmaxxing shouldn't be part of incel behavior. There's a thread earlier about 5 different types of incels and the lazycel type.

That's what most of it seems to be tbqh.
Treat this site less of an isolationist board for a very secluded niche demographic but more of a playground for men to talk about their issues regarding sex life.

The site is turning way too depressing, we should strife to be like zyzz not Rodgers. The difference is Rodgers was blackpilled and couldn't even carry out the day of retribution right and zyzz is a praised figure who got laid.

Go back to IncelTears where you came from

 

[Deleted member 677]

Cope

 

[Erothos]

Go back to IncelTears where you came from

''muh speshal club''
You know you're not an incel unless you've tried looksmaxxing, right?
If you don't genuinely don't want to improve yourself to get laid I recommend you go to r/MGTOW

IncelTears would say you should be confident or that youre evil for saying mean things about muh queens.

If you want the incel tag you gotta try atleast man.

Being an incel is currently not being able to get laid. You sound like a permacel

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Nope

 

[incel-american]

God damn @FiveFourManlet, I'm sort of shocked that some people in this thread are having a hard time understanding your point.

It appears your easy to grasp point is too sophisticated for the high schoolers among us.

 

[Vodaccenu]

Cope

He's saying that bodybuilding forums and /fit/ boards are better than a defeatist attitude.

Reddit = women love me despite my looks

Incels.me = women care only about looks

Bodybuilding forums and /fit/ = who cares anymore, sick abs and good sex

You'd be a volcel if you believe focusing on gains and looksmaxxing shouldn't be part of incel behavior. There's a thread earlier about 5 different types of incels and the lazycel type.

That's what most of it seems to be tbqh.
Treat this site less of an isolationist board for a very secluded niche demographic but more of a playground for men to talk about their issues regarding sex life.

The site is turning way too depressing, we should strife to be like zyzz not Rodgers. The difference is Rodgers was blackpilled and couldn't even carry out the day of retribution right and zyzz is a praised figure who got laid.

/Fit/ and MISC use similar if the same lingo as us, it's full of coping gymcels posting about their nutrition, totals, dosages ,etc. A lot of them are gymcel or larp

 

[Deleted member 10531]

low IQ

Why?

Because the reason why we are alive is not to reproduce. That is low-IQ collectivist way of thinking, in reality, we have no objective reason to exist, no "meaning of life", it's all up to us.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

God damn @FiveFourManlet, I'm sort of shocked that some people in this thread are having a hard time understanding your point.

It appears your easy to grasp point is too sophisticated for the high schoolers among us.

low IQ

Why?

Because the reason why we are alive is not to reproduce. That is low-IQ collectivist way of thinking, in reality, we have no objective reason to exist, no "meaning of life", it's all up to us.

It is to reproduce, stop coping

 

[Kurdish_Incel]

Good hormonal balance won't make you suicide even if you accept the biggest black-pill.
It's the most basic instinct to survive and if you are depressed (aka bad hormone balance) then you're most likely to kys.

Blue-pill is just created so the jews can control most people their desires

 

[Ap0calypse]

Cope

 

[mylifeistrash]

Good hormonal balance won't make you suicide even if you accept the biggest black-pill.
It's the most basic instinct to survive and if you are depressed (aka bad hormone balance) then you're most likely to kys.

Blue-pill is just created so the jews can control most people their desires

it's true

depression is all genetic

 

[fOreVER]

You have to know the truth regardless

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

True to some extent. But how does that make bluepill>blackpill

Lol, neither a compliment or an insult. Though most would interpret it as an insult.
OP is right, though the blue pill actually serves more of an evolutionary purpose than just suicide prevention. It provides motivation to fight for something more, to keep going. Evolution favours motivation massively even when the motivator is not grounded in realistic objectivity. This is because (something we talk about a lot here) exceptions to the rules of lookism do exist, though they do not disprove the rules outright. If everyone was blackpilled this motivation would subside (due to the massively unfavourable odds that must be overcome for an exception in the rule to be realised) and there would be no exceptions.

Evolution has installed unrealistic expectations in human populations for a reason - because more apparent lost causes will succeed to pass on their genes than if it hadn’t, simply because having the morivation to do so (no matter how improbable) increases the chances that it will happen. Evolution only requires for there to be a slight advantage to instill a tendency in humans like this, otherwise it would’ve been left alone and ugly males would begin the LDAR process the minute they became conscious of their looks, because they’d be actually aware of the implications of being ugly.

 

[Hunter]

no shit

 

[NeiboltStreet]

The reason we are alive is to reproduce, nothing else.

Without being able to survive, you cannot reproduce, so your first rule (refer to my incel rulebook) is to survive.

The blackpill can have deadly consequences, e.g suicide.

Committing suicide means we broke the first rule in life which is to protect yourself and survive.

By committing suicide we cannot reproduce, therefore leading to our purpose not being fulfilled.

I believe the bluepill was made as a defence mechanism against the blackpill, as people that knew of the blackpill are more likely to commit suicide.

Also remember one of the rules of my incel rule book? All things happen for a reason.

I believe everyone started off knowing of the blackpill, but due to media and delusion, people deluded us with the bluepill to shield us from the truth and reduce the chances of roping.

Why do you think all those religions that date back all that way constantly go on about how women are evil and nasty?

It’s because many people were blackpilled then.

Therefore bluepill > blackpill

And we have just fucked ourselves over by exposing ourselves to this truth.

Why wouldn't they want us to rope, tho?

 

[Inbuddhist]

There are no rules in life, there is no such thing as "the rule to reproduce" that's just projecting on nature the drive/goals it lacks.

All you can says is "those that reproduce pass their genes" that'{ all, there is no goodness in it, no "winning", no goal, no rule, it's meaningless and nature lacks any drive or intention.

 

[Phaoni]

You're somewhat right but don't interpret the causes correctly. The reason most people are "blue-pilled" or wear rose-colored glasses is it favors our species' maintenance in terms of survival (reproducing, collaboration, survival, reducing violence, etc.). Sapiens is inhabited by an "animal soul", and the blue-pill is nothing more than the haze that makes sapiens conform to a dream world in its head.

 

[psilocybincel]

There are no rules in life, there is no such thing as "the rule to reproduce" that's just projecting on nature the drive/goals it lacks.

All you can says is "those that reproduce pass their genes" that'{ all, there is no goodness in it, no "winning", no goal, no rule, it's meaningless and nature lacks any drive or intention.

Philosophically, maybe. But that is not how evolution works. Evolution does not care for nihilism because evolution is the only way life arose in the first place by means of natural selection, or 'trying it until you get it right'. Through this process it is extremely important to analyze what genes are passed on to understand our own lack of sex. The universe did not have to decide whether it was meaningless or not for life to exist and evolve, because here we are uncertain of the universe's meaning or its lack thereof, and yet, life has found a way to exist.

Philosophically, maybe. But that is not how evolution works. Evolution does not care for nihilism because evolution is the only way life arose in the first place by means of natural selection, or 'trying it until you get it right'. Through this process it is extremely important to analyze what genes are passed on to understand our own lack of sex. The universe did not have to decide whether it was meaningless or not for life to exist and evolve, because here we are uncertain of the universe's meaning or its lack thereof, and yet, life has found a way to exist.

Of course, it may be very noble to deny such basic biological mechanisms in place to make you reproduce because you understand that it may be all without meaning, and there for your awareness has ascended the purpose of life to solely reproduce.
but that is some what akin to asceticism.

 

[Inbuddhist]

Philosophically, maybe. But that is not how evolution works. Evolution does not care for nihilism because evolution is the only way life arose in the first place by means of natural selection, or 'trying it until you get it right'. Through this process it is extremely important to analyze what genes are passed on to understand our own lack of sex. The universe did not have to decide whether it was meaningless or not for life to exist and evolve, because here we are uncertain of the universe's meaning or its lack thereof, and yet, life has found a way to exist.

It's you guys who talk about "rule" "winning" "goals" that adds philosophy to a blind, mechanical mechanism. Evolution works this way : genes self-replicate. That's all, any value you add to that is YOURS, a projection, a superimposition, nature doesn'g say it's good or it's bad, only people who don't understand at all evolutions anthrpomorphise it as if it had human values, your answer shows a complete lack of understanding because i'm not the one who adds philosophy to evolution, it's you guys who think it's some kind of competition with values of "winning" and "rules" and being so low IQ that you become the proxy of self-perpetuating genes instead of saying "i'd chose this because of my well-being" you say "olol this is evolution rules" , evolution doesn't care about anything, it doesn't have the concept of caring to begin with.

 

[ADD Sufferer]

So islam is the truest of dark blue pill religions.
Up to 4 women per guy, only 1 guy per woman and very strict rules.

Truly the Chads religion.

How exactly are you going to make it work when the male:female ration is even or worse, there are more men than women?

 

[psilocybincel]

It's you guys who talk about "rule" "winning" "goals" that adds philosophy to a blind, mechanical mechanism. Evolution works this way : genes self-replicate. That's all, any value you add to that is YOURS, a projection, a superimposition, nature doesn'g say it's good or it's bad, only people who don't understand at all evolutions anthrpomorphise it as if it had human values, your answer shows a complete lack of understanding because i'm not the one who adds philosophy to evolution, it's you guys who think it's some kind of competition with values of "winning" and "rules" and being so low IQ that you become the proxy of self-perpetuating genes instead of saying "i'd chose this because of my well-being" you say "olol this is evolution rules" , evolution doesn't care about anything, it doesn't have the concept of caring to begin with.

Are you proposing the idea that our own psychological desires play a role in our evolution after the Darwinian ideas began to circulate? That is an idea I have entertained before, except psychologically driven desires applied to Darwinian evolution is STILL evolution. If evolution is a cold and calculating mechanism then why do you demand that us humans should be any different than cold and calculating? After all, it's in our evolutionary nature, isn't it?
How exactly do you propose that we change our psychology to navigate out of this said cold and calculating nature which cares about superficial aspects such as height and attractiveness? By being benevolent? Why would all humans change their psychology to fit the standards you see fit because you believe it would be for their own bettering?

 

[Inbuddhist]

Are you proposing the idea that our own psychological desires play a role in our evolution after the Darwinian ideas began to circulate? That is an idea I have entertained before, except psychologically driven desires applied to Darwinian evolution is STILL evolution. If evolution is a cold and calculating mechanism then why do you demand that us humans should be any different than cold and calculating? After all, it's in our evolutionary nature, isn't it?
How exactly do you propose that we change our psychology to navigate out of this said cold and calculating nature which cares about superficial aspects such as height and attractiveness? By being benevolent? Why would all humans change their psychology to fit the standards you see fit because you believe it would be for their own bettering?

What i mean is that something can be good for self perpetuating genes, and bad for your well-being. Anxiety/paranoia/fear are food for the survival of the species, but you don't personality benefit from that, don't be a slave to darwinian mechanisms and think of your well-being first.

I'm not talking about overcoming instincts you can't overcome, i'm just saying it's stupid to not work on things you can overcome, like reducing anxiety just because "it's good for the survival of the specy"

Watch this video and you'll understand, don't mind the title, it's about evolution

 

[NeiboltStreet]

It's you guys who talk about "rule" "winning" "goals" that adds philosophy to a blind, mechanical mechanism. Evolution works this way : genes self-replicate. That's all, any value you add to that is YOURS, a projection, a superimposition, nature doesn'g say it's good or it's bad, only people who don't understand at all evolutions anthrpomorphise it as if it had human values, your answer shows a complete lack of understanding because i'm not the one who adds philosophy to evolution, it's you guys who think it's some kind of competition with values of "winning" and "rules" and being so low IQ that you become the proxy of self-perpetuating genes instead of saying "i'd chose this because of my well-being" you say "olol this is evolution rules" , evolution doesn't care about anything, it doesn't have the concept of caring to begin with.

If there were no rules (not imposed by any conscious decision but by DNA itself), evolution wouldn't have culminated (until now) in humans. It would have just 'tried' this and that and spun in circles. There are clear 'rules' to evolution, but they aren't rules as humans understand them. The most important 'rule'in evolution is to adapt to your surrounding environment or you will perish. The genes of foids will make them select the 'fittest' male they can get to mate with. What is considered 'fit' depends on the environment.

 

[psilocybincel]

What i mean is that something can be good for self perpetuating genes, and bad for your well-being. Anxiety/paranoia/fear are food for the survival of the species, but you don't personality benefit from that, don't be a slave to darwinian mechanisms and think of your well-being first.

I'm not talking about overcoming instincts you can't overcome, i'm just saying it's stupid to not work on things you can overcome, like reducing anxiety just because "it's good for the survival of the specy"

Watch this video and you'll understand, don't mind the title, it's about evolution

Ah okay. I see where you are coming from now, and I agree. In all honesty, I think there should be more solidified evidence on what the suggested evolutionary traits are that people here lack and makes them non receptive to passing their genes on.

 

[Inbuddhist]

If there were no rules (not imposed by any conscious decision but by DNA itself), evolution wouldn't have culminated (until now) in humans. It would have just 'tried' this and that and spun in circles. There are clear 'rules' to evolution, but they aren't rules as humans understand them. The most important 'rule'in evolution is to adapt to your surrounding environment or you will perish. The genes of foids will make them select the 'fittest' male they can get to mate with. What is considered 'fit' depends on the environment.

But that's circular :

What are the rules of evolution ? Surviving.
How do we know they were followed ? By surviving.

Litteraly anything that survives survived, that's a tautology, if there is a king who kills everyone who doesnt suck his dick the dicksuckers would be the most "adaptive" they "won" at evolutuon, but i'd rather be dead instead of being in their place.

 

[psilocybincel]

But in the mean time it seems people jump to their own conclusion about their own genetic makeup for their sanity's sake to avoid cognitive dissonance and the choice on the part of the female discriminate reproduction to a certain genetic makeup.

This leaves two possibilities. One is that they are right and said genes are for some reason not acceptable by females to be passed on

The other possibily is that something this belief does to someone makes them psychologically unacceptable to females somehow, as though they can see though them.

 

[NeiboltStreet]

But that's circular :

What are the rules of evolution ? Surviving.
How do we know they were followed ? By surviving.

Litteraly anything that survives survived, that's a tautology, if there is a king who kills everyone who doesnt suck his dick the dicksuckers would be the most "adaptive" they "won" at evolutuon, but i'd rather be dead instead of being in their place.

The idea is that by only having the fittest individuals survive, the species 'gets better' with each generation until it's so far off from the original species that it becomes a new, more advanced species, like apes to humans.

Now, humans have the big evolutionary problem of consciousness, tho. Having consciousness, they're able to (to some degree) decide to act against evolution. One example would be 'artificially keeping alive and extending the life span' of the elderly, even though they're useless for mating. Also, social services and handing out money to the poor would evolutionarily make no sense, we just do it because we thought up the whole 'morals' thing.

 

[Inbuddhist]

The idea is that by only having the fittest individuals survive, the species 'gets better' with each generation until it's so far off from the original species that it becomes a new, more advanced species, like apes to humans.

Now, humans have the big evolutionary problem of consciousness, tho. Having consciousness, they're able to (to some degree) decide to act against evolution. One example would be 'artificially keeping alive and extending the life span' of the elderly, even though they're useless for mating. Also, social services and handing out money to the poor would evolutionarily make no sense, we just do it because we thought up the whole 'morals' thing.

But fitness means just surviving in a particular environment. In the example i gave you the cuck dicksuckers are the most "fitx

That's all fitness means, nothing more nothing less.

 

[NeiboltStreet]

But in the mean time it seems people jump to their own conclusion about their own genetic makeup for their sanity's sake to avoid cognitive dissonance and the choice on the part of the female discriminate reproduction to a certain genetic makeup.

This leaves two possibilities. One is that they are right and said genes are for some reason not acceptable by females to be passed on

The other possibily is that something this belief does to someone makes them psychologically unacceptable to females somehow, as though they can see though them.

A big problem is that humans have created society and everything that comes with it, which can work heavily against evolutionary forces. Our environment right now SHOULD favor genes encoding for intelligence traits to keep the technological advances going, BUT society (especially in the form of TV/magazines) still tells women to mate with the muscular/physically strong/criminal men and their brains haven't had the time to adapt, yet, so they accept that as true.

 

[psilocybincel]

A big problem is that humans have created society and everything that comes with it, which can work heavily against evolutionary forces. Our environment right now SHOULD favor genes encoding for intelligence traits to keep the technological advances going, BUT society (especially in the form of TV/magazines) still tells women to mate with the muscular/physically strong/criminal men and their brains haven't had the time to adapt, yet, so they accept that as true.

High IQ

 

[Fontaine]

The drive to reproduce is a trick of nature.

Immortality through children is a cope. Most children turn up differently than what their parents expected/wanted. As to genes, they get diluted further and further each generation. You only transmit 50% anyway, perhaps the least important in making you distinctive.

You will die and no one will remember you after a few decades. Period.

If you want to raise a child, adopt one. Don't cope with the fake immortality/narcissism of sexual reproduction.

 

[Kirito3]

I can’t tell if this is extremely low iq or a shitpost

 

[NeiboltStreet]

But fitness means just surviving in a particular environment. In the example i gave you the cuck dicksuckers are the most "fitx

That's all fitness means, nothing more nothing less.

Yes, but as soon as the king who wants his dick sucked dies and the next king wants his hair braided, the dick suckers are bottom tier all of a sudden, unless their brains are capable of learning how to braid hair really well

You will die and no one will remember you after a few decades. Period.

Unless you make it to the history books

 

[WakeMeUpIncel]

The reason we are alive is to reproduce, nothing else.

Without being able to survive, you cannot reproduce, so your first rule (refer to my incel rulebook) is to survive.

The blackpill can have deadly consequences, e.g suicide.

Committing suicide means we broke the first rule in life which is to protect yourself and survive.

By committing suicide we cannot reproduce, therefore leading to our purpose not being fulfilled.

I believe the bluepill was made as a defence mechanism against the blackpill, as people that knew of the blackpill are more likely to commit suicide.

Also remember one of the rules of my incel rule book? All things happen for a reason.

I believe everyone started off knowing of the blackpill, but due to media and delusion, people deluded us with the bluepill to shield us from the truth and reduce the chances of roping.

Why do you think all those religions that date back all that way constantly go on about how women are evil and nasty?

It’s because many people were blackpilled then.

Therefore bluepill > blackpill

And we have just fucked ourselves over by exposing ourselves to this truth.

I would rather be happy and live in delusion than die of misery knowing the truth.

 

[Spite]

Bluepill is cope and copes don't have to make sense

 

[NeiboltStreet]

I would rather be happy and live in delusion than die of misery knowing the truth.

Then the bluepill is what you're looking for

 

[WakeMeUpIncel]

Then the bluepill is what you're looking for

when you take the blackpill, its too late.

 

[NeiboltStreet]

when you take the blackpill, its too late.

Then only a hard-reset of your brain will help.

 

[Erothos]

How exactly are you going to make it work when the male:female ration is even or worse, there are more men than women?

Arranged marriage or otherwise marrying the women that would've gone to the soldiers/male casualties of the opposing force.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

when you take the blackpill, its too late.