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It feels so terrible to know that the only thing between you and intimacy with a girl is your looks.

I just went on a short trip with some friends and could interact with everyone there without any problems whatsoever. I met new people, I played sports with them, I went to the beach with them, I had group conversations, all without any problems. But how can I really enjoy it when I see people experiencing romance, flirting and intimacy while I'm condemned to lifelong inceldom because of my looks?

Being NT is worse as an incel because you can clearly read all social cues and what's happening between people around you. For example, me and my friends went to play some soccer with some people from the condominium there who were already playing. Among them there was a 17yo 4-5/10 foid.

We played without any problems and as the game started to fade out to a more relaxed, conversational, resting vibe, the foid started asking a 5/10 friend of mine about his age, name, etc. She even followed him to drink water and talked more with him. She never asked my name or talked anything to me other than game-related stuff like trying to get me to kick softer while she was in the goal and I was the one kicking during penalties.

What's the point of being sociable and having a nice NT personality when you're a sub4 male? I would rather be a total autist living in my own little world and not being able to tell anything about how people interact. It would be much more compatible to the incel condition that was imposed on me by my looks and by women. and If I were 5 or better I would take some drugs and still try to approach and date, most probably with way better prospects that the ones I have now as a 3/10 NT guy.

Also, we played volley afterwards and I was hands-down the best player (I made like 80% of the points of my team) and there were tons of girls there watching. What's that worth when you're ugly? I could see none of them had any interest in me while bad but good-looking players got some attention, laughs and jokes. Some of them were with their gfs.
 
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Good post op
I'm not saying autists have it easy or anything like that I feel for you guys,
But the feeling of talking to a girl but sensing absolutely no attraction to you whatsoever is brutal and sobering
 
But autistic guys are in a bigger risk of being accused of sexual harassment/assault when they were just attempting to flirt. Also easier to bully.
 
NT is the biggest cope on this forum.
 
You're not spared of suicide-inducing alienation and misery by being in "your own little world." Grass is always greener on the other side, ect...
 
You can’t be with ncel if you are NT
 
You can’t be with incel if you are NT
@RREEEEEEEEE

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I feel sorry for you bro. I am the complete opposite. I am shy and can't interact much with people. I haven't had any friends in years and I don't miss them. I feel much more comfortable being by myself. Your weekend must have been suifuel. Your friend probably added the foid on Facebook\whatsapp and they are going to fuck one of these days.
 
Your post might be a proof that God doesn't exist. Such unfairness is not justifiable.
 
OP just get a hair transplant or a hair piece isn't that like the only thing holding you back?
 
I'm an autist, at least I assume so because I've had bad social anxiety since I was young. It isn't all about reading social queues, I can completely understand what people mean but have limited social skills when talking myself.

It is true being ugly and an autist does fit neatly together, I do get pleasure in being alone so that is better than being alone when all you want to do is go out and socialise.
 
Also, we played volley afterwards and I was hands-down the best player (I made like 80% of the points of my team) and there were tons of girls there watching. What's that worth when you're ugly? I could see none of them had any interest in me while bad but good-looking players got some attention, laughs and jokes.
Aha, that's happened to you too?
 
If i Read more ill become hERo
 
OP just get a hair transplant or a hair piece isn't that like the only thing holding you back?
I'm seriously considering going back on finasteride since I'm not fully bald yet. I'm like Norwood III to IV, maybe somthing can still be saved. But I really didn't want to take such medications.

Also, hair isn't the only thing, I was already an incel with my hair. Skin, chin, ears, skull shape, all are bad as well. But with hair I was surely better looking,would give my haired self a 4/10.
 
I'm seriously considering going back on finasteride since I'm not fully bald yet. I'm like Norwood III to IV, maybe somthing can still be saved. But I really didn't want to take such medications.

Also, hair isn't the only thing, I was already an incel with my hair. Skin, chin, ears, skull shape, all are bad as well. But with hair I was surely better looking,would give my haired self a 4/10.
Why not rogaine? Seems like a fair solution, especially when you know it's over as an oldcel, so constantly applying it to keep hair only during most "fertile" ages like twenties and thirties is a nice option.
 
In a society where rape isn't an option, it's much better to be an attractive mentalcel than an unattractive NT, because even if people would tend to think you're crazy based on the stuff you say and do, they can't help but respond at least somewhat positively because of the halo effect. To observe your behavior and compare it to some standard of what's acceptable, and determine it's wrong, requires intellectual effort; but to be attracted or repulsed by how you look is more immediate and instinctual. Emotion tends to take precedence over intellect, especially in females. Intellectual effort requires an expenditure of resources with no guarantee of any return on investment, while doing what "feels right" provides an immediate dopamine boost.

There are actually three layers involved -- (1) looks, (2) manner, and (3) content. Whether you get routinely given the benefit of the doubt, or filtered out from being given any serious consideration, based on (1) looks alone will tend to affect your confidence, level of happiness, etc. which in turns impacts (2) manner. An unusual manner (especially if combined with unusual looks) is mostly what people think of when they think of "mentalcel". If your looks and manner are normal, but the (3) content of what you say/do is still totally crazy, then at worst you're a psychopath or somewhat deluded.

But females and the general public actually kinda like psychopaths, so that's not really a big deal. They just want you to be a functional, attractive psychopath who would make a useful ally or leader and/or sexy mate. If, on the other hand, your issue is that you have delusions, that's not necessarily a big deal either, because most of the populations buys into a lot of delusions (e.g. religious or political beliefs that don't match up to observed reality). If you're someone like David Koresh or Charles Manson, you can probably get a lot of pussy.

If George Clooney starts talking about UFOs and how Jews did 9/11, do you think girls are really going to hold it against him that much? Even Jewish girls would probably want to get fucked by him, since they are, after all, typically into sexual domination by good-looking Nazis. If someone's looks and manner are normal, but their content isn't, then the natural tendency is to think, "Maybe he's right and I'm the one who's wrong. Or maybe it's not a black-and-white issue; who knows."

High IQ post.

This thread hits close to home. I often don't give myself enough credit for how hard I tried as a teen and how far I got socially in spite of my disadvantages. It is was just far to soul crushing to face the reality of so little reward for so much effort and sacrifice. I'll never forget having one of the coolest guys I ever knew (coolest as in status, he was an asshole most of the time) tell me with absolute sincerity that I could get girls if I looked better. I had finally done it - I was cool to the cool kids. I just wasn't attractive enough for it to be worth a damn.
 
Fuck no why is this lol. Try being ugly and autistic.
Fuck no why is this lol. Try being ugly and autistic.
 
I'm seriously considering going back on finasteride since I'm not fully bald yet. I'm like Norwood III to IV, maybe somthing can still be saved. But I really didn't want to take such medications.

Also, hair isn't the only thing, I was already an incel with my hair. Skin, chin, ears, skull shape, all are bad as well. But with hair I was surely better looking,would give my haired self a 4/10.
i might go on finasteride too. I'm only like a norwood 1.5 but better to be safe than sorry. i think like 80-90 something percent of guys get no side effects.
 
Why not rogaine? Seems like a fair solution, especially when you know it's over as an oldcel, so constantly applying it to keep hair only during most "fertile" ages like twenties and thirties is a nice option.
I used both that one and finasteride for a short while when I started balding, but then got paranoid after a while and stopped with both. Minoxidil is a vasodilator and I already had problems with dilated vases, so I got a little preoccupied. I don't trust doctors wither, they want try to push you into those medications.
 
It feels so terrible to know that the only thing between you and intimacy with a girl is your looks.

I just went on a short trip with some friends and could interact with everyone there without any problems whatsoever. I met new people, I played sports with them, I went to the beach with them, I had group conversations, all without any problems. But how can I really enjoy it when I see people experiencing romance, flirting and intimacy while I'm condemned to lifelong inceldom because of my looks?

Being NT is worse as an incel because you can clearly read all social cues and what's happening between people around you. For example, me and my friends went to play some soccer with some people from the condominium there who were already playing. Among them there was a 17yo 4-5/10 foid.

We played without any problems and as the game started to fade out to a more relaxed, conversational, resting vibe, the foid started asking a 5/10 friend of mine about his age, name, etc. She even followed him to drink water and talked more with him. She never asked my name or talked anything to me other than game-related stuff like trying to get me to kick softer while she was in the goal and I was the one kicking during penalties.

What's the point of being sociable and having a nice NT personality when you're a sub4 male? I would rather be a total autist living in my own little world and not being able to tell anything about how people interact. It would be much more compatible to the incel condition that was imposed on me by my looks and by women. and If I were 5 or better I would take some drugs and still try to approach and date, most probably with way better prospects that the ones I have now as a 3/10 NT guy.

Also, we played volley afterwards and I was hands-down the best player (I made like 80% of the points of my team) and there were tons of girls there watching. What's that worth when you're ugly? I could see none of them had any interest in me while bad but good-looking players got some attention, laughs and jokes. Some of them were with their gfs.
That is my situation exactly. Very nt and very ugly.
 
Fuck no why is this lol. Try being ugly and autistic.
Fuck no why is this lol. Try being ugly and autistic.
I would just isolate myself. I think autistic people are better suited for social isolation.

i might go on finasteride too. I'm only like a norwood 1.5 but better to be safe than sorry. i think like 80-90 something percent of guys get no side effects.
Might have been placebo but while on it I noticed lower sperm volume and a bit of impotence. But good luck, how old are you?
 
Wut does nt even stand for
 
I would just isolate myself. I think autistic people are better suited for social isolation.


Might have been placebo but while on it I noticed lower sperm volume and a bit of impotence. But good luck, how old are you?
23
 
I would just isolate myself. I think autistic people are better suited for social isolation.


Might have been placebo but while on it I noticed lower sperm volume and a bit of impotence. But good luck, how old are you?
Fuck no, its clear you don't understand anything about being autistic, there are no advantages, you desire connections but everybody treats you like a freak
 
Very good post, OP! I feel your pain, I am NT but sub 3. The only thing that holds me back are my looks. No amount of personality will ever change that, we are doomed to a life of loneliness and our only crime was being too ugly. During my high school years, never once did I have any female attracted to me, despite having a lot of female friends. I was and still am too ugly for anyone to be romantically interested in me. Personality is the biggest meme ever. :feelsrope:
 
Also, we played volley afterwards and I was hands-down the best player (I made like 80% of the points of my team) and there were tons of girls there watching. What's that worth when you're ugly? I could see none of them had any interest in me while bad but good-looking players got some attention, laughs and jokes. Some of them were with their gfs.
This hits home. When I played soccer at school and was actually decent, none of the girls went to talk to me, only to the chads. I remember when I was 10 a mini-chad joined our class on the Physical Ed. day, in the end of the day he already had friends and girls after him. Not to say I was a social kid, but none of this shit justify what happened.

I will give a listen to elliot audiobook after this, I need someone to relate to right now.
 
Fuck no, its clear you don't understand anything about being autistic, there are no advantages, you desire connections but everybody treats you like a freak
How autistic are you? The other day I asked people on a thread about autism to post a video where the person on it was really autistic and the guy on the video they posted was unable even to post here by what I saw. Also, sorry for not being able to understand very well. I actually thought I was a bit autistic/had social anxiety but I'm actually completely fined other than my looks. The looks blackpill make me see the truth about my lack of success.

Very good post, OP! I feel your pain, I am NT but sub 3. The only thing that holds me back are my looks. No amount of personality will ever change that, we are doomed to a life of loneliness and our only crime was being too ugly. During my high school years, never once did I have any female attracted to me, despite having a lot of female friends. I was and still am too ugly for anyone to be romantically interested in me. Personality is the biggest meme ever. :feelsrope:
I saw so many people with gfs and women interested on them during this trip. It's impossible to enjoy social stuff as a blackpilled NT truecel. I thought going out a bit like that would do me good but as much as sports are a little fun and healthy, the whole trip wasn't good for me. Too much sadness and now I found myself thinking about the past where I was a bit better-looking and could have had a chance.
 
At least you get to have friends.
 
At least you get to have friends.
And see one of them with his gf, the other with a cute 17yo flirting with him while I get nothing :feelsrope:

To be fair I like my friends but it has been basically impossible to really enjoy social stuff since I took the looks blackpill.
 
How autistic are you? The other day I asked people on a thread about autism to post a video where the person on it was really autistic and the guy on the video they posted was unable even to post here by what I saw. Also, sorry for not being able to understand very well. I actually thought I was a bit autistic/had social anxiety but I'm actually completely fined other than my looks. The looks blackpill make me see the truth about my lack of success.


I saw so many people with gfs and women interested on them during this trip. It's impossible to enjoy social stuff as a blackpilled NT truecel. I thought going out a bit like that would do me good but as much as sports are a little fun and healthy, the whole trip wasn't good for me. Too much sadness and now I found myself thinking about the past where I was a bit better-looking and could have had a chance.

That's exactly what I think to myself every day. "If only I was better looking, then I would be able to find a partner." But alas, I am too ugly and this world is a cruel place. Everytime you are reminded of what you will never have just because you are too ugly. Extreme suicide fuel.
 
Ignorance is bliss i guess
 
Fuck you, faggot. Stop taking shit for granted, I HAVE NO ONE. Not a single fucking friend on the planet, not a single fucking person willing to just chill out and laugh with me. You know what I do all day, faggot? This. Fucking this. And when I’m not doing this? Staring at my ceiling while listening to music, wondering why the fuck nobody loves me. EAT SHIT.
You're not spared of suicide-inducing alienation and misery by being in "your own little world." Grass is always greener on the other side, ect...
This
 

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