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RageFuel Being a male virgin in your mid 20s is a thousand times worse than being one in your late teens

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Yes i know that being 30 and incel would be even worse, before i get blasted with comments like these, im just making a comparison here**

ILol at teens saying how over it is for them cause they're virgins at 17 and 18. That's nothing. Try being one in your mid/ late 20's. Then you will feel the real pain of being a grown adult virgin. Most non incels are having their second child at this age and settling down with their childhood sweet hearts. When you reach this age. There's no hope. You just accept your fate. Trying to "slay" at this age is weird too as people would have expected you to settle down. Your slaying time was suppose to be in high school and university. But that doesn't apply to us incels who went through our academic years kissless and watching pornhub.
 
I did not even expect to have sex during my teens. Tbh I think most Asian guys don't expect to have sex in their teens. Like where do people even do it? At their parents house?

Guess my ignorance just goes to show what a loser I was.
 
Tbh I was in more psychological anguish at being a virgin at 16-24 than I am now at 32. Back then i was surrounded by young people having sex in high school and university and there was a peer pressure to have it and talk about it. Now I've hermitmaxxed and am a total social pariah it's not as bad as it was.
 
Yes i know that being 30 and incel would be even worse, before i get blasted with comments like these, im just making a comparison here**

ILol at teens saying how over it is for them cause they're virgins at 17 and 18. That's nothing. Try being one in your mid/ late 20's. Then you will feel the real pain of being a grown adult virgin. Most non incels are having their second child at this age and settling down with their childhood sweet hearts. When you reach this age. There's no hope. You just accept your fate. Trying to "slay" at this age is weird too as people would have expected you to settle down. Your slaying time was suppose to be in high school and university. But that doesn't apply to us incels who went through our academic years kissless and watching pornhub.
incel ≠ virgin

30+ year old being an incel is normal
being 30+ year old involuntary virgin; very different thing

I am 30+ involuntary incel and virgin.
 
i'm 23 and a kissless virgin. at this rate my suicide is inevitable
 
high school and university
high school and university
I never even went there because financially not possible.

Because of autism I had no chance of getting the required summer and part-time jobs (students get kicked off from dorms during the summer, one can't even get student loan covering the summer breaks) and my divorced parents refusing to support and pay for my education.

Only now in my thirties I applied to continue my studies. I'll see how it goes.
 
This was the prime .22-28 . Not even a foid in sight. I am only worried if i can get hard if i ever hired an escort someday.
 
incel ≠ virgin

30+ year old being an incel is normal
being 30+ year old involuntary virgin; very different thing

I am 30+ involuntary incel and virgin.
Very true. Important note.

Browsing through past posts, most oldcels here had escortmaxxed in their 20s.

KHHV as an oldcel is rare.
 
Its exponential
 
Suifuel :feelsrope: Fuck life
 
For real. I need to make a thread just for the real wizards only.
 
My 30s are approaching :cryfeels:
 
KHHV Wizzard reporting in :feelsrope:
 
2 months and 12 days until I’m in my 20s. Can’t imagine anything worse than still being a kissless virgin then.
 
Yes i know that being 30 and incel would be even worse, before i get blasted with comments like these, im just making a comparison here**
Damn I only came here to blast you with such a comment.
 
27 year old version checking in. I'm in the midst of that "psychological anguish" of being a virgin at this stage.

Muslim Foids claim they want virgin man but in reality like all other foids think it's creepy. I matched with a 2/10 landwhale feminists (1/10 with makeup on lol) yes worse with makeup.

She asked if I had a disability when I told her I was virgin.....
 
Stop with the suifuel, I can't take anymore :feelsrope:This hurts the most, thinking back 10 years ago to where I thought my romantic life would be at this point and where it actually is. Beyond brutal. Everything I missed out on during what should have been my best years. It's over buddy boyos.
 
Got you doubled. The worst part is that no one understands my constant desperation since there IS a possible solution (sexdolls + VR) but no one else care.
 
Very true. Important note.

Browsing through past posts, most oldcels here had escortmaxxed in their 20s.

KHHV as an oldcel is rare.
It's not escortmaxxing if they have done it just to lose virginity or try a few times or visit too rarely.

Incel in thirties (or older) may also be someone who has had non-paid sex (real sex), but no longer is able to get a partner.

I am real KHHV oldcel. Escorts here are too expensive and I am low-income.
 
ive just become apathetic to it, the likelihood of me escaping inceldom diminishes every year. Im too far gone to save.

atleast i can cosy max with vidya and food i guess
 
I am 21 turning 22 in about 6 months. I look 40, I am at NW 2.5-3, I am obese, short in a country full of very tall white guys, I have asthma and a bad knee injury from when I was a kid. Still KHHV and I believe I will remain this way for the rest of my life. OVER.
 
Like where do people even do it? At their parents house?
My brother told me he had sex in the woods behind our house. AFAIK its usually in places like that, or in houses when parents are gone.
 
Try being one in your mid/ late 20's. Then you will feel the real pain of being a grown adult virgin.
I don't mind that much at 24 anymore tbh. Doesn't seem like there's much point to it anyways. Wouldn't want to have children either in this world ruled by these elites tightening their grip on people's everyday lives.
Your slaying time was suppose to be in high school and university.
Over.
 
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Tbh I was in more psychological anguish at being a virgin at 16-24 than I am now at 32. Back then i was surrounded by young people having sex in high school and university and there was a peer pressure to have it and talk about it. Now I've hermitmaxxed and am a total social pariah it's not as bad as it was.
Same, it was worst for me in uni because on Friday evenings I’d be coming back from classes and foids would be dressed as giga sluts being super drunk going to clubs and parties. That was giga suicide fuel.

When
isolated it doesn’t work effect you as much
 
ILol at teens saying how over it is for them cause they're virgins at 17 and 18. That's nothing. Try being one in your mid/ late 20's. Then you will feel the real pain of being a grown adult virgin. Most non incels are having their second child at this age and settling down with their childhood sweet hearts. When you reach this age. There's no hope. You just accept your fate. Trying to "slay" at this age is weird too as people would have expected you to settle down. Your slaying time was suppose to be in high school and university. But that doesn't apply to us incels who went through our academic years kissless and watching pornhub.
 
Yes i know that being 30 and incel would be even worse, before i get blasted with comments like these, im just making a comparison here**

ILol at teens saying how over it is for them cause they're virgins at 17 and 18. That's nothing. Try being one in your mid/ late 20's. Then you will feel the real pain of being a grown adult virgin. Most non incels are having their second child at this age and settling down with their childhood sweet hearts. When you reach this age. There's no hope. You just accept your fate. Trying to "slay" at this age is weird too as people would have expected you to settle down. Your slaying time was suppose to be in high school and university. But that doesn't apply to us incels who went through our academic years kissless and watching pornhub.
Marrying your childhood or high school sweetheart is definitely not the norm. Most people marry people they meet in college or a bit after college. Marriage mostly happens around late 20s early 30s.

Though yeah seeing the people you graduated high school with getting married and starting families while you still haven’t even had your first kiss hurts a lot
 
Yes i know that being 30 and incel would be even worse
Nah I wouldn't even say that, because your libido is dead or dying, you'll notice a lot of incels in their 30's have this coping "I've moved on from my hate" mindset, and they don't realize that its really that their body is old and tired, they didn't "move on" from shit


Its way worse being in your 20's, being horny as hell, being surrounded by pairs who are sexually satisfied and always talking about sex, etc, than being some tired old many with little to no friends, even if you have friends in their 30's that are dating or married their sex lives are in the dumpster around these years and getting worse each year, you aren't gonna hear much sex talk
 
Nah I wouldn't even say that, because your libido is dead or dying, you'll notice a lot of incels in their 30's have this coping "I've moved on from my hate" mindset, and they don't realize that its really that their body is old and tired, they didn't "move on" from shit


Its way worse being in your 20's, being horny as hell, being surrounded by pairs who are sexually satisfied and always talking about sex, etc, than being some tired old many with little to no friends, even if you have friends in their 30's that are dating or married their sex lives are in the dumpster around these years and getting worse each year, you aren't gonna hear much sex talk
Nah man just go on r/FA30plus, all those poor dudes are miserable as hell
 
Nah man just go on r/FA30plus, all those poor dudes are miserable as hell
Still not as bad as being in your 20's, I visited the site, these guys are just talking about the mental anguish of the feeling of "missing out", what's worse than that is the physical anguish of having a high libido and no outlet, you literally feel like killing yourself sometimes just to make it stop

A lot of these guys sound like the LDAR incels on this forum, they do nothing with their lives for 10+ years, and then they wake up a 30 year old virgin and have the gall to ask "where did my life go"


If you are 20 right now and an incel

YOU HAVE 10 FUCKING YEARS TO SAVE UP AND FUCK A WHORE ONCE

YOU HAVE 10 FUCKING YEARS TO WORK ON BUILDING YOUR WEALTH AND RESOURCES SO THAT YOUR 30'S ARE MORE ENJOYABLE


I don't feel sorry for these guys one bit, again they remind me of one user I really hate on this forum, @FrothySolutions

He will always be exhibit fucking A for me of where the LDAR cope mindset takes you in life

In your 50's on reddit asking people how he can get invited to college parties to lose his virginity to hot women, this is peak delusion, and this is the final destination for all LDAR retards on this site

There's so much time to get shit done you really have no excuse
 
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I did not even expect to have sex during my teens. Tbh I think most Asian guys don't expect to have sex in their teens. Like where do people even do it? At their parents house?

Guess my ignorance just goes to show what a loser I was.
 
Still not as bad as being in your 30's, I visited the site, these guys are just talking about the mental anguish of the feeling of "missing out", what's worse than that is the physical anguish of having a high libido and no outlet, you literally feel like killing yourself sometimes just to make it stop

A lot of these guys sound like the LDAR incels on this forum, they do nothing with their lives for 10+ years, and then they wake up a 30 year old virgin and have the gall to ask "where did my life go"


If you are 20 right now and an incel

YOU HAVE 10 FUCKING YEARS TO SAVE UP AND FUCK A WHORE ONCE

YOU HAVE 10 FUCKING YEARS TO WORK ON BUILDING YOUR WEALTH AND RESOURCES SO THAT YOUR 30'S ARE MORE ENJOYABLE


I don't feel sorry for these guys one bit, again they remind me of one user I really hate on this forum, @FrothySolutions

He will always be exhibit fucking A for me of where the LDAR cope mindset takes you in life

In your 50's on reddit asking people how he can get invited to college parties to lose his virginity to hot women, this is peak delusion, and this is the final destination for all LDAR retards on this site

There's so much time to get shit done you really have no excuse
Not all of us want to fuck whores because not all of us only want sex

Plus I turn 25 in July so it’s over for me anyway I’ll probably kill myself on my 30th
 
Not all of us want to fuck whores because not all of us only want sex
Life is not about what you want, life is about what you can get

You work with the options you have available or you stop complaining

The truth is many of you aren't willing to go to extremes to get what you want

You could become wealthy, move to a country where women are still relatively under the control of a patriarchy (like Turkey or some other Islamic country) and find a wife there, as long as you never left the country to go live elsewhere you could live that perfect life you always dream of where you have a wife that respects you and would never betray you

That was actually my first plan, but unlike guys like yourself I can see the error in having an obsession and being unwilling to choose a more logical path because you are "hung up" in your dream life, but its still an option that is available to many incels

But many of you aren't willing to make any concessions:
You want to remain Christian despite the God you pray to not giving a fuck about you
You want to be able to stay in contact with friends and/or family
You want to "live in a western country"
Etc

You aren't willing to making any sacrifices or concessions to get what you want

The truth is there are many options available to a lot of incels, its just going to take time, effort and sacrifice to get them, something many incels are unwilling to do

I'm willing to bet there are a good few indian incels on this site whose parents could arrange a marriage for them, but they refuse to pursue that option because they are limited by their egos and they want to get a woman that "loves them"

I think we need to "cut the bullshit" on this forum

For guys who keep saying "life is unfair" and that they are black pilled, it seems like that reality is the one thing you guys are unwilling to accept, because of someone says they believe something, then logic dictates they'll make decisions based on that belief

So how can one actually be black pilled if they acknowledge the truth but refuse to make decisions based off of it, and instead pointlessly clings to the dreams of the past

Saying "I want X" doesn't matter, the only relevant question is "What can I get"

Plus I turn 25 in July so it’s over for me anyway I’ll probably kill myself on my 30th
Five years is still plenty of time, you are just making excuses, with that mindset why wait till 30, just kill yourself tomorrow

Go out, buy some chessecake or whatever it is you like, all the fast foods and treats you like, pig out, and then kill yourself, that's what I would do (I really like cheesecake)

If you've decided you are going to do nothing there's no point in waiting to just kill yourself, its retard logic, you should just skip to the end and kill yourself now
 
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Life is not about what you want, life is about what you can get

You work with the options you have available or you stop complaining

The truth is many of you aren't willing to go to extremes to get what you want

You could become wealthy, move to a country where women are still relatively under the control of a patriarchy (like Turkey or some other Islamic country) and find a wife there, as long as you never left the country to go live elsewhere you could live that perfect life you always dream of where you have a wife that respects you and would never betray you

That was actually my first plan, but unlike guys like yourself I can see the error in having an obsession and being unwilling to choose a more logical path because you are "hung up" in your dream life, but its still an option that is available to many incels

But many of you aren't willing to make any concessions:
You want to remain Christian despite the God you pray to not giving a fuck about you
You want to be able to stay in contact with friends and/or family
You want to "live in a western country"
Etc

You aren't willing to making any sacrifices or concessions to get what you want

The truth is there are many options available to a lot of incels, its just going to take time, effort and sacrifice to get them, something many incels are unwilling to do

I'm willing to bet there are a good few indian incels on this site whose parents could arrange a marriage for them, but they refuse to pursue that option because they are limited by their egos and they want to get a woman that "loves them"

I think we need to "cut the bullshit" on this forum

For guys who keep saying "life is unfair" and that they are black pilled, it seems like that reality is the one thing you guys are unwilling to accept, because of someone says they believe something, then logic dictates they'll make decisions based on that belief

So how can one actually be black pilled if they acknowledge the truth but refuse to make decisions based off of it, and instead pointlessly clings to the dreams of the past

Saying "I want X" doesn't matter, the only relevant question is "What can I get"


Five years is still plenty of time, you are just making excuses
>you could just get wealthy

Lmao that is not easy and impossible for many and moving to another country is out of the question

I have no options and uninspired sex with someone who doesn’t even find me attractive is unacceptable

also not wanting an arraigned marriage for that reason is valid because who wants to live in a loveless marriage
 
>you could just get wealthy
You could TRY and get wealthy, I mean what else are you doing with your free time other than............ EXISTING?

That's what I find so funny about responses like this

What else are you really doing that trying to get wealthy would "get in the way of it"?

All you do is exist, focusing on building wealth doesn't take away from anything, and on top of that you hate your life JFL, so what is pursuing wealth getting in the way of?, you existing in the life you hate?

You aren't doing anything of importance anyways so you might as well take a chance on your own future

moving to another country is out of the question
Why?

who wants to live in a loveless marriage
No such thing as love, again its users like you who will call yourself black pilled

Marriage being for "love" is bullshit, in the past humans didn't even pretend to have such delusions, marriage was about politics, creating a legacy, forming alliances (basically repeating myself - politics), etc, this whole "love" thing was secondary

I notice this thing where many incels take modern concepts and speak as if they were the norm in the past

Let me make this simple for you with a common sense statement

DO YOU REALLY THINK THE AVERAGE WOMAN IN THE PAST WITH LIMITED OPTIONS (CAN'T WORK OR OWN PROPERTY) WAS MARRYING FOR "LOVE"?

OR WAS SHE JUST MARRYING THE BEST MAN SHE COULD GET?


The answer is obvious, "love" only became a factor when women were no longer limited in their options and could be truly hypergamous, love was never a factor for men, and even if women wanted it in the past it wasn't a factor because they didn't have the option, and yet that didn't stop you or me from being born, it didn't stop the world from going on

Love has never and will never be a factor, what matters in a marriage is leverage, control, respect, roles, rules, etc

In the right environment you can get a marriage like that, I would have no problem with that, but tbh I'd prefer to not be married and just be able to fuck whroes
 
You could TRY and get wealthy, I mean what else are you doing with your free time other than............ EXISTING?

That's what I find so funny about responses like this

What else are you really doing that trying to get wealthy would "get in the way of it"?

All you do is exist, focusing on building wealth doesn't take away from anything, and on top of that you hate your life JFL, so what is pursuing wealth getting in the way of?, you existing in the life you hate?

You aren't doing anything of importance anyways so you might as well take a chance on your own future


Why?


No such thing as love, again its users like you who will call yourself black pilled

Marriage being for "love" is bullshit, in the past humans didn't even pretend to have such delusions, marriage was about politics, creating a legacy, forming alliances (basically repeating myself - politics), etc, this whole "love" thing was secondary

I notice this thing where many incels take modern concepts and speak as if they were the norm in the past

Let me make this simple for you with a common sense statement

DO YOU REALLY THINK THE AVERAGE WOMAN IN THE PAST WITH LIMITED OPTIONS (CAN'T WORK OR OWN PROPERTY) WAS MARRYING FOR "LOVE"?

OR WAS SHE JUST MARRYING THE BEST MAN SHE COULD GET?


The answer is obvious, "love" only became a factor when women were no longer limited in their options and could be truly hypergamous, love was never a factor for men, and even if women wanted it in the past it wasn't a factor because they didn't have the option, and yet that didn't stop you or me from being born, it didn't stop the world from going on

Love has never and will never be a factor, what matters in a marriage is leverage, control, respect, roles, rules, etc

In the right environment you can get a marriage like that, I would have no problem with that, but tbh I'd prefer to not be married and just be able to fuck whroes
WHY WOULD I MARRY WITHOUT LOVE

HOW DO YOU GET WEALTHY IF YOU’RE UNLUCKY AND RETARDED

I CAN’T EVEN FUCKING AFFORD A CHEAP APARTMENT YOU EXPECT ME TO JUST UPEND AND MOVE TO SOME FOREIGN COUNTRY

IF ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS GETTING YOUR DICK WET THEN WHY EVEN POST HERE

YOU HAVE NO REASON TO BE SAD SINCE YOU CAN JUST PAY HOOKERS

IF YOU AREN’T LONELY YOU AREN’T INCEL, YOU’RE VOLCEL
 
HOW DO YOU GET WEALTHY IF YOU’RE UNLUCKY AND RETARDED
Again if you are so defective, why wait to kill yourself

Buy some fast food and treats tomorrow, pig out and then kill yourself lol

There's no point in you waiting 10 extra years to do the inevitable, it really doesn't make any sense the way you guys think

"Yeah I'm definitely going to kill myself and I'm not going to try and change that.................... let me arbitrarily wait X amount of years to do it"

Why wait, its pointless

I CAN’T EVEN FUCKING AFFORD A CHEAP APARTMENT YOU EXPECT ME TO JUST UPEND AND MOVE TO SOME FOREIGN COUNTRY
One would think based on the conversation that you would first have to BECOME WEALTHY and then leave your country, I mean you literally just said becoming wealthy would be hard, why are you pretending like anyone was saying you should leave your country while you are broke?

I can't tell if you are just this stupid or being disingenuous

IF ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS GETTING YOUR DICK WET THEN WHY EVEN POST HERE
Can't get my dick wet, isn't that obvious?, when I can hookercel with ease I won't even bother coming here

Lastly, inceldom is about sex, think you need to google what the word "celibacy" means, it has nothing to do with your feelings or you "wanting to be loved", a lot of you guys project your own personal bullshit onto the definition, its about sex, nothing else, everything else is just you adding to it and creating a personal definition

Inceldom is about being INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE

So the question you asked me you should really ask yourself, because if you are so focused on things outside of sex, its you that's in the wrong place, you problem has nothing to do with celibacy

YOU HAVE NO REASON TO BE SAD SINCE YOU CAN JUST PAY HOOKERS
I like how in one minute you talk about something as if aware of context (building wealth) and then in the next minute you make statements as if you forgot the context

Retard, am I wealthy yet?

Weren't we just talking about BECOMING wealthy?
 
Again if you are so defective, why wait to kill yourself

Buy some fast food and treats tomorrow, pig out and then kill yourself lol

There's no point in you waiting 10 extra years to do the inevitable, it really doesn't make any sense the way you guys think

"Yeah I'm definitely going to kill myself and I'm not going to try and change that.................... let me arbitrarily wait X amount of years to do it"

Why wait, its pointless


One would think based on the conversation that you would first have to BECOME WEALTHY and then leave your country, I mean you literally just said becoming wealthy would be hard, why are you pretending like anyone was saying you should leave your country while you are broke?

I can't tell if you are just this stupid or being disingenuous


Can't get my dick wet, isn't that obvious?, when I can hookercel with ease I won't even bother coming here

Lastly, inceldom is about sex, think you need to google what the word "celibacy" means, it has nothing to do with your feelings or you "wanting to be loved", a lot of you guys project your own personal bullshit onto the definition, its about sex, nothing else, everything else is just you adding to it and creating a personal definition

Inceldom is about being INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE

So the question you asked me you should really ask yourself, because if you are so focused on things outside of sex, its you that's in the wrong place, you problem has nothing to do with celibacy


I like how in one minute you talk about something as if aware of context (building wealth) and then in the next minute you make statements as if you forgot the context

Retard, am I wealthy yet?

Weren't we just talking about BECOMING wealthy?
You have to tell me how to be wealthy

And if hookers exist then no one is incel. We are all volcels, even if the law is a thing.

Don’t fucking come here and shit on people who are suffering.
 
You have to tell me how to be wealthy
I'm sorry that's not how that works, you have to want more for yourself, and if you don't, stop fucking complaining about having a shitty life then, the most annoying thing is someone who complains and does nothing, its like "kill yourself already"

And if hookers exist then no one is incel. We are all volcels, even if the law is a thing.
That's also not how that works lol

Don’t fucking come here and shit on people who are suffering.
Some suffering is self imposed, a lot of you are really just shitting on your own lives at this point
 
I'm sorry that's not how that works, you have to want more for yourself, and if you don't, stop fucking complaining about having a shitty life then, the most annoying thing is someone who complains and does nothing, its like "kill yourself already"


That's also not how that works lol


Some suffering is self imposed, a lot of you are really just shitting on your own lives at this point
Go fuck yourself cunt
 
Tbh I was in more psychological anguish at being a virgin at 16-24 than I am now at 32. Back then i was surrounded by young people having sex in high school and university and there was a peer pressure to have it and talk about it.
There was peer pressure to brag about it, but you didn't really need to be pressured to do it, you just felt sad because you fell short of expectations
 

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