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Serious At what point is one a volcel vs incel?

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This has probably been posted before. If it has, please link the thread so I can read the discussion.

First, incel=involuntary celibate. If you refuse to fuck disgusting obese women, are you volcel? I think it is fair to say anybody here could obtain a non-fat body, and then fuck bottom 0.5% women. Nobody would say you are a fakecel if you refuse to fuckbese/deformed/homeless/diseased women.


Thus, I have seen it being re-labeled as incel with women you are attracted enough to, enough to get a boner, without the use of other drugs (pde-5 inhibitors typically). I have seen people try and say volcel if won’t fuck your looksmatch, but IMO this is flawed because you can’t objectively equate male to female SMV.

So, if we agree a incel is a male who can’t consensually, without DIRECT payment, have sex with a women who they are attracted to, at what point is the amount of effort one puts in determining that they are volcel vs incel?

Someone like the plymouth guy is obviously a fakecel- could easily get a gf if he lost fat. Good bones, white, 6ft. However, what if you would have to go to gym for, 3 years, and maintain strict diet, enough to get laid? If someone doesn’t want to do that, are they incel-or voluntarily celibate? Or if somebody refuses to get an invasive plastic surgery, is that technically voluntary celibacy?

Clearing this up would greatly benefit the community, as common arguments are “just see a hooker, bam not celibate anymore”. This is a result of UNCLEAR definitions.

If you refuse to wageslave for a year, spend your hard earned money on plastic surgery, suffer through painful surgery, that is technically a choice you make. But it would be stupid to call somebody a fakecel for not doing that. It is like claiming somebody is voluntarily poor if they refuse to rob a bank.

My thoughts: Inceldom is the state of being unable to REASONABLY have consensual sex with a women you are attracted to, with the absence of coercion or bribery.

“Reasonable” is slightly subjective. Is it reasonable to do what @itsOVER did and travel to a shithole country to have sex? Are you a fakecel if you don’t? Probably not. However, what about getting to a low body fat %? Are you voluntarily celibate if you do not try to get a 6 pack?
 
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We've discussed this before, but there is no one thread for it, no "final decision." Like everything else, no one here can agree on when someone is incel vs. volcel.
 
We've discussed this before, but there is no one thread for it, no "final decision." Like everything else, no one here can agree on when someone is incel vs. volcel.
Oh ok. The lack of a consensus is unfortunate but understandable. My ASD does not like when things have heavy nuance:worryfeels:
 
If your genetics permit you to have a girlfriend, you are not incel. For all the rest, you are incel.
 
If your genetics permit you to have a girlfriend, you are not incel. For all the rest, you are incel.
This does not make sense to me, I have aspergers so please be understanding if I am not making any sense. Person XYZ with (insert genetic profile) could morbid obesity maxx, and be unable to get a GF. However the same person XYZ could gymcel, get surgery, statusmaxx, and get a girlfriend.
 
Rejection of any foid makes you vocel
Tbhngl
 
Rejection of any foid makes you vocel
Tbhngl
Thank you for your opinion. I feel that is unpopular here. Why not go to a nursing home and fuck obese granny?
 
Thank you for your opinion. I feel that is unpopular here. Why not go to a nursing home and fuck obese granny?

GrAYcel Shit tier response
:feelsjuice:

You know nothing of Grannymaxxing word to @chudur-budur
:feelsjuice:
 
This does not make sense to me, I have aspergers so please be understanding if I am not making any sense. Person XYZ with (insert genetic profile) could morbid obesity maxx, and be unable to get a GF. However the same person XYZ could gymcel, get surgery, statusmaxx, and get a girlfriend.
If it takes you 20 years to gym max, status max, money max, and surgery max, just to get used up roast beef, you are an incel. If you cannot get pussy while you are young, without having to devote 90%+ of your time and resources to activities revolving around obtaining it, you are incel.
 
If it takes you 20 years to gym max, status max, money max, and surgery max, just to get used up roast beef, you are an incel. If you cannot get pussy while you are young, without having to devote 90%+ of your time and resources to activities revolving around obtaining it, you are incel.
Thank you, I like this answer. I am almost certainly above and beyond a truecel, I devoted years to nothing else.
 
In order to truly answer this question I would have to write a university-tier essay on the whole incel and volcel thing. Currently don’t have the energy to correctly respond.
 
Mentalceldom is no joke. Even say you're high tier normie: women have those stacked like shit already AND be NT. Why would she put up with your neurodivergent ass?
 
And like flies to honey, the fakecels appear to justify their existence on the forum
 
You may have high standards as much as you want (some guys here will call you a "standardcel" kek) but if no girls/women (even the ugly ones) are attracted to you you're an incel.
 
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if u escortcel you are an incel, if you fuck a (consensual) woman for free you are a fakecel even if you are ugly, if you fuck a woman for your money or status you are an incel
 
Probably not. However, what about getting to a low body fat %? Are you voluntarily celibate if you do not try to get a 6 pack?
if someone is a fat fuck piece of lard he's likely a volcel

most people here are incel to low tier normie in terms of looks, very few are actual truecels, so they could likely fetch some bottom of the barrel women in that sense, and technically that would categorize them as volcels but lets be real, nobody wants to go for some deformed freak 3-4 points below them
 
it depends on how hard it is to ascend and if it's not cucked
 
This has probably been posted before. If it has, please link the thread so I can read the discussion.

First, incel=involuntary celibate. If you refuse to fuck disgusting obese women, are you volcel? I think it is fair to say anybody here could obtain a non-fat body, and then fuck bottom 0.5% women. Nobody would say you are a fakecel if you refuse to fuckbese/deformed/homeless/diseased women.


Thus, I have seen it being re-labeled as incel with women you are attracted enough to, enough to get a boner, without the use of other drugs (pde-5 inhibitors typically). I have seen people try and say volcel if won’t fuck your looksmatch, but IMO this is flawed because you can’t objectively equate male to female SMV.

So, if we agree a incel is a male who can’t consensually, without DIRECT payment, have sex with a women who they are attracted to, at what point is the amount of effort one puts in determining that they are volcel vs incel?

Someone like the plymouth guy is obviously a fakecel- could easily get a gf if he lost fat. Good bones, white, 6ft. However, what if you would have to go to gym for, 3 years, and maintain strict diet, enough to get laid? If someone doesn’t want to do that, are they incel-or voluntarily celibate? Or if somebody refuses to get an invasive plastic surgery, is that technically voluntary celibacy?

Clearing this up would greatly benefit the community, as common arguments are “just see a hooker, bam not celibate anymore”. This is a result of UNCLEAR definitions.

If you refuse to wageslave for a year, spend your hard earned money on plastic surgery, suffer through painful surgery, that is technically a choice you make. But it would be stupid to call somebody a fakecel for not doing that. It is like claiming somebody is voluntarily poor if they refuse to rob a bank.

My thoughts: Inceldom is the state of being unable to REASONABLY have consensual sex with a women you are attracted to, with the absence of coercion or bribery.

“Reasonable” is slightly subjective. Is it reasonable to do what @itsOVER did and travel to a shithole country to have sex? Are you a fakecel if you don’t? Probably not. However, what about getting to a low body fat %? Are you voluntarily celibate if you do not try to get a 6 pack?
If you HAVE to do all of those things and are WILLING to do them, you're not blackpilled. True blackpill wouldn't bother with gym or plastic surgery, there is no hope.
 

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