This has probably been posted before. If it has, please link the thread so I can read the discussion.
First, incel=involuntary celibate. If you refuse to fuck disgusting obese women, are you volcel? I think it is fair to say anybody here could obtain a non-fat body, and then fuck bottom 0.5% women. Nobody would say you are a fakecel if you refuse to fuckbese/deformed/homeless/diseased women.
Thus, I have seen it being re-labeled as incel with women you are attracted enough to, enough to get a boner, without the use of other drugs (pde-5 inhibitors typically). I have seen people try and say volcel if won’t fuck your looksmatch, but IMO this is flawed because you can’t objectively equate male to female SMV.
So, if we agree a incel is a male who can’t consensually, without DIRECT payment, have sex with a women who they are attracted to, at what point is the amount of effort one puts in determining that they are volcel vs incel?
Someone like the plymouth guy is obviously a fakecel- could easily get a gf if he lost fat. Good bones, white, 6ft. However, what if you would have to go to gym for, 3 years, and maintain strict diet, enough to get laid? If someone doesn’t want to do that, are they incel-or voluntarily celibate? Or if somebody refuses to get an invasive plastic surgery, is that technically voluntary celibacy?
Clearing this up would greatly benefit the community, as common arguments are “just see a hooker, bam not celibate anymore”. This is a result of UNCLEAR definitions.
If you refuse to wageslave for a year, spend your hard earned money on plastic surgery, suffer through painful surgery, that is technically a choice you make. But it would be stupid to call somebody a fakecel for not doing that. It is like claiming somebody is voluntarily poor if they refuse to rob a bank.
My thoughts: Inceldom is the state of being unable to REASONABLY have consensual sex with a women you are attracted to, with the absence of coercion or bribery.
“Reasonable” is slightly subjective. Is it reasonable to do what @itsOVER did and travel to a shithole country to have sex? Are you a fakecel if you don’t? Probably not. However, what about getting to a low body fat %? Are you voluntarily celibate if you do not try to get a 6 pack?
First, incel=involuntary celibate. If you refuse to fuck disgusting obese women, are you volcel? I think it is fair to say anybody here could obtain a non-fat body, and then fuck bottom 0.5% women. Nobody would say you are a fakecel if you refuse to fuckbese/deformed/homeless/diseased women.
Thus, I have seen it being re-labeled as incel with women you are attracted enough to, enough to get a boner, without the use of other drugs (pde-5 inhibitors typically). I have seen people try and say volcel if won’t fuck your looksmatch, but IMO this is flawed because you can’t objectively equate male to female SMV.
So, if we agree a incel is a male who can’t consensually, without DIRECT payment, have sex with a women who they are attracted to, at what point is the amount of effort one puts in determining that they are volcel vs incel?
Someone like the plymouth guy is obviously a fakecel- could easily get a gf if he lost fat. Good bones, white, 6ft. However, what if you would have to go to gym for, 3 years, and maintain strict diet, enough to get laid? If someone doesn’t want to do that, are they incel-or voluntarily celibate? Or if somebody refuses to get an invasive plastic surgery, is that technically voluntary celibacy?
Clearing this up would greatly benefit the community, as common arguments are “just see a hooker, bam not celibate anymore”. This is a result of UNCLEAR definitions.
If you refuse to wageslave for a year, spend your hard earned money on plastic surgery, suffer through painful surgery, that is technically a choice you make. But it would be stupid to call somebody a fakecel for not doing that. It is like claiming somebody is voluntarily poor if they refuse to rob a bank.
My thoughts: Inceldom is the state of being unable to REASONABLY have consensual sex with a women you are attracted to, with the absence of coercion or bribery.
“Reasonable” is slightly subjective. Is it reasonable to do what @itsOVER did and travel to a shithole country to have sex? Are you a fakecel if you don’t? Probably not. However, what about getting to a low body fat %? Are you voluntarily celibate if you do not try to get a 6 pack?
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