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Serious At this point, i believe framepill is the deadliest. In many cases , it's even worse than heightpill ( in my experience)

nile34

nile34

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Having a narrow frame + skinny is so brutal at any height.
To give you an example, I'm 6ft and a half (184cm) with an MTN face , I have a good height for where i live but it still ain't enough because I'm literally built like a skinny 12 year old despite being 18 , even some foids mog me in terms of frame and most dudes my age easily look bigger than me . 13 year olds think I'm their age which makes me prone to disrespect. I have friends who're 5'6 and 5'5 who don't even hit the gym but are easily bigger than me just cause they have wide frames.

while your a framelet, everyone thinks you're weak and it's not like you're gonna be bullied straightup but you're not gonna be taken seriously either. Even if you're gonna hit 30 , some people will still assume you're a teenager from a glance jfl . I've always observed how "short" dudes with good/wide frames do well in terms of respect from other dudes and can even do good in dating if they have a good face even if they're short ( but it depends on how short) .
For example - I've seen tons of 5'5-5'8 dudes with wide frames never get disrespected and assumed to be "teenagers" , yeah they might be short ,but are atleast seen as grown ass men who just have a short height, meanwhile if you're a framelet, you'll be treated like a teen or even a middle school kid which is humiliating.
Also , at 5'7 5'8 - you can do well with a good face and a good frame (that's what I've observed) . However there's a cap to this , if you're shorter than 5'5 or 5'6 than yeah frame doesn't matter either so it's over for you regardless of a good frame and face .

Another thing I've noticed is that - you'll never be sexually attractive to foids , with a good height and a good face , you'll be seen as attractive and they might treat you decent but you'll never be seen as "fuckable" which I hate . No foid wants to fuck a guy who has a body of a 12 year old who just started puberty .

At this point, I'll gladly be 5'7 with a wide frame .
Seriously,this shit destroys both your dating and social life
 
I too have a god awful frame
 
frame matters but you need to be at least average height
 
Mods will ban you for whatever but this guy is 6ft and "MTN" face and wont get banned jfl!
 
Height always>>>> frame untill the frame starts standing out
 
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Not so strong first post
 
I know you're new but there are rules on this forum and you must abide by them like everyone else.
 
this is retard level stuff
How is this retard level stuff , you cannot capitalise on the height advantage if you're built like a 12 year old , and having a normie face doesn't do any good either
 
Having a narrow frame + skinny is so brutal at any height.
To give you an example, I'm 6ft and a half (184cm) with an MTN face , I have a good height for where i live but it still ain't enough because I'm literally built like a skinny 12 year old despite being 18 , even some foids mog me in terms of frame and most dudes my age easily look bigger than me . 13 year olds think I'm their age which makes me prone to disrespect. I have friends who're 5'6 and 5'5 who don't even hit the gym but are easily bigger than me just cause they have wide frames.

while your a framelet, everyone thinks you're weak and it's not like you're gonna be bullied straightup but you're not gonna be taken seriously either. Even if you're gonna hit 30 , some people will still assume you're a teenager from a glance jfl . I've always observed how "short" dudes with good/wide frames do well in terms of respect from other dudes and can even do good in dating if they have a good face even if they're short ( but it depends on how short) .
For example - I've seen tons of 5'5-5'8 dudes with wide frames never get disrespected and assumed to be "teenagers" , yeah they might be short ,but are atleast seen as grown ass men who just have a short height, meanwhile if you're a framelet, you'll be treated like a teen or even a middle school kid which is humiliating.
Also , at 5'7 5'8 - you can do well with a good face and a good frame (that's what I've observed) . However there's a cap to this , if you're shorter than 5'5 or 5'6 than yeah frame doesn't matter either so it's over for you regardless of a good frame and face .

Another thing I've noticed is that - you'll never be sexually attractive to foids , with a good height and a good face , you'll be seen as attractive and they might treat you decent but you'll never be seen as "fuckable" which I hate . No foid wants to fuck a guy who has a body of a 12 year old who just started puberty .

At this point, I'll gladly be 5'7 with a wide frame .
Seriously,this shit destroys both your dating and social life
I have shit frame and I can proudly say DNR and fuck you.
 
I know you're new but there are rules on this forum and you must abide by them like everyone else.
My bad if it came up as humble bragging .
My apologies
But i just wanted to tell that having a good height ain't an advantage at all if you don't have the correct frame to back it up . Also being facially mid doesn't do good at all
 
Short men always have shitter frames, my frame sucks ass, I think I have one of the worst frames I've seen
 
Ehh idk man , having a very narrow frame + skinny literally makes you look like a teenager even if you're an adult
Insane fucking cope
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It looks ugly yes it does but you're 6ft and MTN so you have nothing to complain about nigger
 
How is this retard level stuff , you cannot capitalise on the height advantage if you're built like a 12 year old , and having a normie face doesn't do any good either
your original post is just autistic bro sorry. you basically said frame and face > face and height. unless you have 4 inch clavicles this is just pure retardium.
 
yes they will. height is all that matters
Bullshit.
your original post is just autistic bro sorry. you basically said frame and face > face and height. unless you have 4 inch clavicles this is just pure retardium.
Are you blind? I clearly fucking said that I'm built like a 12 year old , try imagining that , grown ass man having the body of a skinny 12 year old and let me clarify,for where I live , 6ft ain't a big deal at all . It's more like abover average instead of tall cause in my country tall starts at 6'2+ cause most zoomers around me are easily 5'10-5'11 so being just an inch or two taller than the average man means jackshit .
 
Bullshit.

Are you blind? I clearly fucking said that I'm built like a 12 year old , try imagining that , grown ass man having the body of a skinny 12 year old and let me clarify,for where I live , 6ft ain't a big deal at all . It's more like abover average instead of tall cause in my country tall starts at 6'2+ cause most zoomers around me are easily 5'10-5'11 so being just an inch or two taller than the average man means jackshit .
then move country faggot, you are literally in the top 15% of height in the world. you have the two most important traits, stop crying, you can actually fix your situation unlike 99% of us.
 
Insane fucking cope
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It looks ugly yes it does but you're 6ft and MTN so you have nothing to complain about nigger
You retard, it's not about being ugly , it's about looking like a grown ass man .
I literally said in the post I'm built like a middle schooler, y'all are blind .
When you're just two inches taller than the average man with a normie face , you ain't mogging anyone lmao .
Worsened by the fact that you're still prone to disrespect due to being built like a kid ( even foids look bigger than me framewise jfl) and having normie face which makes you undesirable to most foids.
 
You retard, it's not about being ugly , it's about looking like a grown ass man .
I literally said in the post I'm built like a middle schooler, y'all are blind .
When you're just two inches taller than the average man with a normie face , you ain't mogging anyone lmao .
Worsened by the fact that you're still prone to disrespect due to being built like a kid ( even foids look bigger than me framewise jfl) and having normie face which makes you undesirable to most foids.
I bet my body that I even sent the pic above looks worse than yours too. Being 6ft is enough to make up for having a shit frame

and also frame is fixable shithead, I'd sympathize with you if you werent a tallfag
 
You retard, it's not about being ugly , it's about looking like a grown ass man .
I literally said in the post I'm built like a middle schooler, y'all are blind .
When you're just two inches taller than the average man with a normie face , you ain't mogging anyone lmao .
Worsened by the fact that you're still prone to disrespect due to being built like a kid ( even foids look bigger than me framewise jfl) and having normie face which makes you undesirable to most foids.
also if you dont think 6ft is tall come to Brazil the average height here is 5'8 nigga
 
then move country faggot, you are literally in the top 15% of height in the world. you have the two most important traits, stop crying, you can actually fix your situation unlike 99% of us.
no gym for your bone structure.
Building a good physique actually requires a decent base which I don't even have .
I clearly told you even foids frame mog me and you must've seen those photos where some folks despite gymcelling look awful due to their bone structure. And that's exactly my case , so no it's not fixable combined with a normie face .

A Normie face won't do jackshit in today's dating world , foids literally have nothing to do with normies and are chad-only . Even if I do pull a woman who'll genuinely desire me it's most probably gonna be landwhales which I do not want . Im facially a total normie with very average features + I can't even surgerymaxx cause I'm broke asf rn + I'm not even white so that I can atleast geomaxx
 
I bet my body that I even sent the pic above looks worse than yours too. Being 6ft is enough to make up for having a shit frame

and also frame is fixable shithead, I'd sympathize with you if you werent a tallfag
does frame matter for average height guys according to you ?
 
no gym for your bone structure.
Building a good physique actually requires a decent base which I don't even have .
I clearly told you even foids frame mog me and you must've seen those photos where some folks despite gymcelling look awful due to their bone structure. And that's exactly my case , so no it's not fixable combined with a normie face
you utter dumbass. Frame is fucking fixable by doing manual labor, swimming and exercising. All of this just seems like whining to excuse the fact that you mog

like i said, i would understand if you were short, but you're fucking 6ft tall JFL

also frame is fixable by putting on muscle too, just weight lifts nigga

does frame matter for average height guys according to you ?
yes it does but only if paired with non-nt
 
post pic of your face (many do it) - or you’re larping.
 
>posts: 8
>I'm 6ft

Tallfag's try not to brag challenge EXTREME difficulty :feelskek: :feelskek:
 
Post your pic here. You won’t get a more accurate and honest assessment anywhere
 
you utter dumbass. Frame is fucking fixable by doing manual labor, swimming and exercising. All of this just seems like whining to excuse the fact that you mog

like i said, i would understand if you were short, but you're fucking 6ft tall JFL

also frame is fixable by putting on muscle too, just weight lifts nigga


yes it does but only if paired with non-nt
"frame is fixable" no it's not , you actually need a certain genetic base for that to be able look good with some muscles on . Bone structure is relative, you might look into the mirror and claim that you're not small framed yet when you step outside, 90% of dudes and even some foids mog you in terms of that and that's how you know you have shit bone structure dumbass. Lifting can only help to a very certain extent, after that it's all genetics (which I don't have )

A lot of mfs like you unfairly accuse guys who're 5'10 or above for larping and dismiss their opinion simply for being "tallfags" but do not think that they might be just above average for their nation instead of being tall , which is exactly my case - being one or two inches taller than the average dude doesn't make you tall lmao , height halo in the west literally starts at 6'2+ nowadays. I already told above that I'm just one or two inches taller than the average zoomer in my area combined with the fact that I'm facially a normie while being a framelet .
 
"frame is fixable" no it's not , you actually need a certain genetic base for that to be able look good with some muscles on . Bone structure is relative, you might look into the mirror and claim that you're not small framed yet when you step outside, 90% of dudes and even some foids mog you in terms of that and that's how you know you have shit bone structure dumbass. Lifting can only help to a very certain extent, after that it's all genetics (which I don't have )

A lot of mfs like you unfairly accuse guys who're 5'10 or above for larping and dismiss their opinion simply for being "tallfags" but do not think that they might be just above average for their nation instead of being tall , which is exactly my case - being one or two inches taller than the average dude doesn't make you tall lmao , height halo in the west literally starts at 6'2+ nowadays. I already told above that I'm just one or two inches taller than the average zoomer in my area combined with the fact that I'm facially a normie while being a framelet .
stop lying to yourself dumbass I already showed you my frame and I'm fixing it rn by leanmaxxing, swimming and lifting weights. It's slow progress but frame IS fucking fixable as long as your shoulders aren't very fucking narrow.

I even asked you if you framemogged me and you didnt even say anything i think that answers a lot. The "good base" bs is a fucking lie just take a look at Zyzz for example. Like I said your shoulders have to be very fucking narrow for muscle not to fix anything

Also I never said anything about 5'10+ but if you're 6ft or more and above 4/10 then ur a fakecel
 
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stop lying to yourself dumbass I already showed you my frame and I'm fixing it rn by leanmaxxing, swimming and lifting weights. It's slow progress but frame IS fucking fixable as long as your shoulders aren't very fucking narrow.

I even asked you if you framemogged me and you didnt even say anything i think that answers a lot. The "good base" bs is a fucking lie just take a look at Zyzz for example. Like I said your shoulders have to be very fucking narrow for muscle not to fix anything

Also I never said anything about 5'10+ but if you're 6ft or more and above 4/10 then ur a fakecel
I have the frame just like above and yeah mine is slightly worse .
Again,bone structure is relative- you can't claim that you have a decent frame when you get mogged by 90% of dudes around you.
( Even worse when some foids and 14 year olds so yeah I do have very narrow clavicles)
I can also give you photos of folks whose frames still look like shit despite gymcelling , this doesn't prove jackshit.

Also you're delusional asf , being just above average height and mid looking facially doesn't get you shit in today's world . At best you'll only get landwhales and will have MTBs and stacys settling for you. You atleast need to be chadlilte/HTN facially to get genuine interest from women. Can't believe I have to explain this shit JFL
 
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Also you're delusional asf , being just above average height and mid looking facially doesn't get you shit in today's world . At best you'll only get landwhales and will have MTBs and stacys settling for you. You atleast need to be chadlilte/HTN facially to get genuine interest from women. Can't believe I have to explain this shit JFL
yes it fucking does, especially around here I see average guys with girls eveywhere so stop with that bs. Unlike the bs ur spouting we're the lowest of the low and chances are you'll prob ascend without even trying in a few years considering you're 6ft tall.

That chadlite/HTN is so bs. At best even if your frame makes you unattractive in your situation all you need to do is fucking BUILD MUSCLE! Just get that through your head already and stop frame coping because frame can be improved
 
stop lying to yourself dumbass I already showed you my frame and I'm fixing it rn by leanmaxxing, swimming and lifting weights. It's slow progress but frame IS fucking fixable as long as your shoulders aren't very fucking narrow.

I even asked you if you framemogged me and you didnt even say anything i think that answers a lot. The "good base" bs is a fucking lie just take a look at Zyzz for example. Like I said your shoulders have to be very fucking narrow for muscle not to fix anything

Also I never said anything about 5'10+ but if you're 6ft or more and above 4/10 then ur a fakecel
It's funny how You gave the example of zyzz
He literally was on steroids.
I'm never hopping on gear , ain't wanna risk other things
 
It's funny how You gave the example of zyzz
He literally was on steroids.
I'm never hopping on gear , ain't wanna risk other things
ok then whatever. You don't need steroids if you don't want to but atleast you could admit that you have a fixable problem. I do to because while my height is avg my frame is the last thing that makes my smv low

Just stop coping and admit that ur problem is fixable unlike others here
 
yes it fucking does, especially around here I see average guys with girls eveywhere so stop with that bs. Unlike the bs ur spouting we're the lowest of the low and chances are you'll prob ascend without even trying in a few years considering you're 6ft tall.

That chadlite/HTN is so bs. At best even if your frame makes you unattractive in your situation all you need to do is fucking BUILD MUSCLE! Just get that through your head already and stop frame coping because frame can be improved
This is something you'll see on IT lmao
Most normie and sub-5 relationships are vastly different from the ones which chads/chadlites experience.
Yeah I've seen these relationships around me too , But I've also observed how one sided these relationships are . Meanwhile the avg relationship experience these chadlites get are far superior
 

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