Discussion Asexuality, the best thing ever?

[Barnacle]

Think about this, many if not most of our mental issues come from something related to sexual desires but if we were asexual this would fall away and we would have a completely new path we could follow in life.
That is why so many geniuses in history were wither asexual or atleast Volcels, because they channeled the mental power that otherwise would be used for a massive primitive urge for something much more important in the long run.

I think being born asexual already makes you superior on a social and psychological level.

 

[Orkcel]

I don't like affirming asexuality as a thing because I think it just essentially means you're defective and most likely have a hormonal imbalance more specifically. I'm sure I could quell my desires for women by literally castrating myself if I were a cuck JFL. I doubt Tesla was "aesexual" science for him was just a strong enough cope to ascend desire for foids. It is true that many of the scientists of old were celibate because indeed women require a lot of mental resource, but I don't think even the majority were Tesla type volcel individuals. For every Tesla, there was a Newton or Nietzsche who would have fits of insanity over their inceldom.

 

[Barnacle]

I don't like affirming asexuality as a thing because I think it just essentially means you're defective and most likely have a hormonal imbalance more specifically. I'm sure I could quell my desires for women by literally castrating myself if I were a cuck JFL. I doubt Tesla was "aesexual" science for him was just a strong enough cope to ascend desire for foids. It is true that many of the scientists of old were celibate because indeed women require a lot of mental resource, but I don't think even the majority were Tesla type volcel individuals. For every Tesla, there was a Newton or Nietzsche who would have fits of insanity over their inceldom.

Yeah, I get your point and also always believed that there are no real asexuals as that would be the denial of something fundamental human but lets just accept the idea that there really is a lack of sexuality in some individuals, would that not be the best thing ever?

Not sure of Newton but Nietzsche was not asexual, which is clear when you read about his life and his desires(but he did NOT die of an STD he got in a brothel, that is a slander)

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Nah. Of interactions I've had with "aces" while it is true they talk up a game of driven focus, when you sort it out on paper, their asexuality also lends them to be extremely temperamental in aspects regarding teamwork or building trust with people even platonically. They burn bridges easily, and have no respect for other people's time. Every ace I've interacted with tends to be completely incapable of not being 100% selfish.

 

[Orkcel]

Yeah, I get your point and also always believed that there are no real asexuals as that would be the denial of something fundamental human but lets just accept the idea that there really is a lack of sexuality in some individuals, would that not be the best thing ever?

Not sure of Newton but Nietzsche was not asexual, which is clear when you read about his life and his desires(but he did NOT die of an STD he got in a brothel, that is a slander)

I know Nietzsche wasn't asexual, but from my understanding he was essentially incel/unsuccessful with women and would have fits of rage over the matter. Correct me if I'm wrong as I may be, but it doesn't sound implausible to me, I mostly care about his contributions currently have "On the Genealogy of Morality" lined up on my reading list next.

Newton as well from my understanding would write about his hatred for women and his lack of success with them as well. He used Christianity and his mission of finding god's objective structure of the universe as his cope. When you can actually achieve such great things there is a certain degree to which you can propagate your essence through memes instead of genes, this is serves the psychological need of reproduction for the incel/volcel genius.

As I said I don't believe aesexuals exist, I'd just consider it another branch of defectiveness and such people are probably too lacking in testosterone to achieve anything anyway imo. Theoretically it would be interesting to envision a world in which women are no longer of value to us, but ultimately such a world is one in which continuation of life is no longer of value to us.

 

[BradPitt]

Asexuality is a the biggest cope of them all.

 

[Deleted member 18912]

Dependency.
Its all about the human needs.

 

[Nothingness]

There is no such thing as asexuality.

 

[Barnacle]

I know Nietzsche wasn't asexual, but from my understanding he was essentially incel/unsuccessful with women and would have fits of rage over the matter. Correct me if I'm wrong as I may be, but it doesn't sound implausible to me, I mostly care about his contributions currently have "On the Genealogy of Morality" lined up on my reading list next.

Newton as well from my understanding would write about his hatred for women and his lack of success with them as well. He used Christianity and his mission of finding god's objective structure of the universe as his cope. When you can actually achieve such great things there is a certain degree to which you can propagate your essence through memes instead of genes, this is serves the psychological need of reproduction for the incel/volcel genius.

As I said I don't believe aesexuals exist, I'd just consider it another branch of defectiveness and such people are probably too lacking in testosterone to achieve anything anyway imo. Theoretically it would be interesting to envision a world in which women are no longer of value to us, but ultimately such a world is one in which continuation of life is no longer of value to us.

There is a certain irony that Nietzsche did not at all hold up to his own created ideals, he was the complete opposite and yes, by modern standards an Incel, literally as he tried everything.

Newton was a psychopath in the clinical sense and there are rumours that he was homosexual in his times, now it is believed he was a celibate and died a virgin. Who knows.

I also tend to not believe in real asexuality but men with exteme low T are almost in that area. I knew men who just were not sexual at all, they, atleast on the surface, did not waste one thought nor word on that subject, they also all were extremely High IQ and successfull academically.

 

[GowkBird]

Being dead is the best thing ever. Or being 12/10 Chad.

 

[Orkcel]

I also tend to not believe in real asexuality but men with exteme low T are almost in that area. I knew men who just were not sexual at all, they, atleast on the surface, did not waste one thought nor word on that subject, they also all were extremely High IQ and successfull academically.

Indeed I'd imagine a lot of these people subconsciously feel they're propagating their essence through their contributions of whatever field as a psychological replacement. Such people even if they're remembered in 500 years time, will be forgotten in the long wrong compared to those whose genes further, but I think dedicating yourself in this way is an admirable cope. It's sad that in general these people with great contributions in some manner self select against themselves.

You'd probably be surprised how well some people can present too though, for most of my life I could probably be described in this "aesexual" presenting way from the observer's perspective; I personally would feel discussing such matters in person to be too tactless, but there is a reason I'm now posting on incels.co.

 

[StaroRavager]

Being born as a genetically superior male sounds like a better deal

 

[Deleted member 1780]

I have a hard time believing asexuality exists. Your body and mind is the result of millions of years of your ancestors trying to achieve the same goal, and all the sudden that mechanism doesn't work on you anymore? JFL! sounds like kids trying to seem cool and different.

 

[Barnacle]

Indeed I'd imagine a lot of these people subconsciously feel they're propagating their essence through their contributions of whatever field as a psychological replacement. Such people even if they're remembered in 500 years time, will be forgotten in the long wrong compared to those whose genes further, but I think dedicating yourself in this way is an admirable cope. It's sad that in general these people with great contributions in some manner self select against themselves.

I don't know about that to be honest. I guess even in 500 years a Tesla will be more important to the world than the offspring of some random person.
I used to see asexuality as an ideal because of my own suffering with unfullfilled sexual desires and my general disdain for animalistic instincts in the human species. Probably was a form of coping but I still hold on to this monastary aestheticisim in some ways.
I do have this odd fascination with a gnostic/buddhistic view, in the way that only spirit really is pure while the flesh is evil(simplified, I am no religious nut)

 

[Orkcel]

I don't know about that to be honest. I guess even in 500 years a Tesla will be more important to the world than the offspring of some random person.
I used to see asexuality as an ideal because of my own suffering with unfullfilled sexual desires and my general disdain for animalistic instincts in the human species. Probably was a form of coping but I still hold on to this monastary aestheticisim in some ways.
I do have this odd fascination with a gnostic/buddhistic view, in the way that only spirit really is pure while the flesh is evil(simplified, I am no religious nut)

I mostly mean in a very broad sense, in a post-civilization collapse for example, successful genes will have a higher likelihood of surviving than ideas.

I read the Dhammapadda when I was 14 or so and found most of Buddhism intriguing, but I was turned off by the absolutist pacifism and the kind of immolating dogma that was at its core. I do agree that there is maybe something more pure in the logical/spiritual mind perhaps.

 

[Barnacle]

I mostly mean in a very broad sense, in a post-civilization collapse for example, successful genes will have a higher likelihood of surviving than ideas.

I read the Dhammapadda when I was 14 or so and found most of Buddhism intriguing, but I was turned off by the absolutist pacifism and the kind of immolating dogma that was at its core. I do agree that there is maybe something more pure in the logical/spiritual mind perhaps.

Buddhism rejects reality, this was offputting for me but at the core it is consequencial to its own dogma, that all life is suffering.
I also over the years rejected the dualistic conception of it and many other religions. Body and mind are not seperate.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

I hear asexuals can get hassled