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Serious As a 4/10 faced male, can I ever expect to get a pleasantly attractive 7-8+/10 girl to truly love me?

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I'd like to hope if I ever have a wife she'll be well kept and take care of herself, and perhaps somewhat feminine/pretty or something. I was thinking today about how women are very reluctant to ever go below their looksmatch and it was a painful cut to my heart thinking about how if this is true, the likelihood of me ever finding a girlfriend/wife I'm actually attracted to narrows to zero

With what certainty and within what looks range would you guys say I'm destined to never break out of? Does this range change if I'm 190cm and muscular gymcel?

I'm 4/10 facially and 9/10 body and I struggle severely with all woman I come into contact with. There is simply never any interest.

Interest, generally speaking, is either there immediately, within a minute or two, or not at all. For me it's always none. Height and muscle does nothing for me.
 
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Imagine of this subject was a foid, jfl?

Screaming about hypergamy yet doing exactly the same, literally a living meme.
 
Why don't you go for your looksmaxx? You are literally acting like a fucking foid and reason for people branding us "300 pound neckbeards who want super model gfs".
 
7/10 foid has 5-10 chads on rotation. 8/10 is a model level girl with 30 chads orbiters.
Why would she want to love you if she has all of those chads?
 
I'd like to hope if I ever have a wife she'll be well kept and take care of herself, and perhaps somewhat feminine/pretty or something. I was thinking today about how women are very reluctant to ever go below their looksmatch and it was a painful cut to my heart thinking about how if this is true, the likelihood of me ever finding a girlfriend/wife I'm actually attracted to narrows to zero

With what certainty and within what looks range would you guys say I'm destined to never break out of? Does this range change if I'm 190cm and muscular gymcel?

I'm 4/10 facially and 9/10 body and I struggle severely with all woman I come into contact with. There is simply never any interest.

Interest, generally speaking, is either there immediately, within a minute or two, or not at all. For me it's always none. Height and muscle does nothing for me.
Never.
 
the best scenario is:
you find a 4/10.
and true love is a meme.
how can an incel considere himself :blackpill: and belive in true love?
 
You can if you becone rich and powerful. Very unlikely that you will.
 
How tall are you? 4/10 face and height can get you laid easily. Are you running social circle game?
 
Guys can I just ask, is it a crime to hope to find a girl that is feminine and I am attracted to? Or is there just some default expectation that we as incels will take any sweating cunt landwhale manbearpig fat woman who looks our way?


I don't know where to define feminine and somewhat pretty, maybe a 5/10 or 6/10 then, Idk. Don't act like you guys would be happy with disgusting landwhale. I take care of my physique and it's no crime to hope for a girl to do the same
 
If your body is 9/10, then the chances are probably more than zero, but it's still very fucking unlikely.

Are you sure your face is 4/10? What are your facial flaws? Can you do anything about them?
 
Imagine of this subject was a foid, jfl?

Screaming about hypergamy yet doing exactly the same, literally a living meme.
Don't act like you'd be happy with a obese swollen pig landwhale with rotting teeth and shit stained panties. Have some fucking standards lad.
 
Guys can I just ask, is it a crime to hope to find a girl that is feminine and I am attracted to? Or is there just some default expectation that we as incels will take any sweating cunt landwhale manbearpig fat woman who looks our way?


I don't know where to define feminine and somewhat pretty, maybe a 5/10 or 6/10 then, Idk. Don't act like you guys would be happy with disgusting landwhale. I take care of my physique and it's no crime to hope for a girl to do the same

If you are a thin 4/10 go for a thin 4/10 foid, volcel cunt.
 
Guys can I just ask, is it a crime to hope to find a girl that is feminine and I am attracted to? Or is there just some default expectation that we as incels will take any sweating cunt landwhale manbearpig fat woman who looks our way?


I don't know where to define feminine and somewhat pretty, maybe a 5/10 or 6/10 then, Idk. Don't act like you guys would be happy with disgusting landwhale. I take care of my physique and it's no crime to hope for a girl to do the same
it's over boy it never began for sub4s
 
I'd like to hope if I ever have a wife she'll be well kept and take care of herself, and perhaps somewhat feminine/pretty or something. I was thinking today about how women are very reluctant to ever go below their looksmatch and it was a painful cut to my heart thinking about how if this is true, the likelihood of me ever finding a girlfriend/wife I'm actually attracted to narrows to zero

With what certainty and within what looks range would you guys say I'm destined to never break out of? Does this range change if I'm 190cm and muscular gymcel?

I'm 4/10 facially and 9/10 body and I struggle severely with all woman I come into contact with. There is simply never any interest.

Interest, generally speaking, is either there immediately, within a minute or two, or not at all. For me it's always none. Height and muscle does nothing for me.
If you are 190 cm gymcel you might be able to if you have a good frame.
 
If your body is 9/10, then the chances are probably more than zero, but it's still very fucking unlikely.

Are you sure your face is 4/10? What are your facial flaws? Can you do anything about them?
I'm absolutely sure my face is 4/10. Three of my male friends said I'm 2 or 3/10 even.

I have low bodyfat yet still a seeming double chin and mild face melting into neck from recessed chin and jawline, negative canthal tilt, flat midface and cheekbones, bald head, thin eyebrows and thin head hair remaining on my Norwood 7 head. I'm also pale as fuck. fish lips on a narrow mouth with straight yet narrow teeth. Everything seems "funnelled" asymmetrically through my face, with the funnel point my mouth, if you can imagine that

I'm white too
 
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If you are a thin 4/10 go for a thin 4/10 foid, volcel cunt.
tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh @Oli Bomsa
im a 4/10 and i'd still settle for a 3/10. go fuck yourself OP
 
I'm absolutely sure my face is 4/10. Three of my male friends said I'm 2 or 3/10 even.

I have low bodyfat yet still a seeming double chin and mild face melting into neck from recessed chin and jawline, negative canthal tilt, flat midface, bald, thin eyebrows and remaining head hair
Go for 4-5, maybe 6, but anything above should be out of the question.

If it makes you feel any better, you still mog me hard with that frame and height.
 
tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh @Oli Bomsa
im a 4/10 and i'd still settle for a 3/10. go fuck yourself OP
tbhhh you go fuck YOURSELF m8, don't blame me for wanting a girlfriend I'm attracted to.
 
Women are incapable of loving men in the same way, even chad.
 
Go for 4-5, maybe 6, but anything above should be out of the question.

If it makes you feel any better, you still mog me hard with that frame and height.
Like I said, I've been generally optimistic and trying everywhere I can with girls I meet at uni and in social gatherings

But it's rejection every single fuckin time. I don't know what my realistic goals should be, or if I should just prepare for the worst or get castrated and live as a monk in Tibet
 
tbhhh you go fuck YOURSELF m8, don't blame me for wanting a girlfriend I'm attracted to.
eat shit cunt, dont be a hypocrite. hate to be the devils advocate but if youre a 4/10 then go after your looksmatch otherwise gtfo standardscel scum. rope if you cant deal with it.
 
You will be lucky if you get a 2/10. Most men will have to go 2 points below their looksmatch. Face is 90% of attraction.
 
eat shit cunt, dont be a hypocrite. hate to be the devils advocate but if youre a 4/10 then go after your looksmatch otherwise gtfo standardscel scum.
the whole point of this thread is to ask on people's opinions how viable it is to date ABOVE YOUR LOOKSMATCH and by how far

Read the original post

I clearly said a looks RANGE

What RANGE can I hope to succeed in
 
Like I said, I've been generally optimistic and trying everywhere I can with girls I meet at uni and in social gatherings

But it's rejection every single fuckin time. I don't know what my realistic goals should be, or if I should just prepare for the worst or get castrated and live as a monk in Tibet
Realistically speaking, 2-3. But I understand you can't lower your standards by 5 points, that's why I said go for a bit above your level. Maybe you'll get lucky somehow, who knows.
 
you are not blackpilled if you think that way.. and if you successfully get an 8+/10 u were never an incel
 
you are not blackpilled if you think that way.. and if you successfully get an 8+/10 u were never an incel
If you read the whole thing you'd see I changed my guess to 5-6/10
 
7/10 foid has 5-10 chads on rotation. 8/10 is a model level girl with 30 chads orbiters.
Why would she want to love you if she has all of those chads?
yup 5-10 chads and 100 orbiters
 
Just become a billionaire bro, suddenly women will "love you for who you are".
 
Obviously not, even your looksmatch will never lust after you. Your body rating makes you a 5 maybe and we know that's just not enough. Working on your body is only good if you're a 6/10 and want to be considered good-looking by some women.
 
I'd like to hope if I ever have a wife she'll be well kept and take care of herself, and perhaps somewhat feminine/pretty or something. I was thinking today about how women are very reluctant to ever go below their looksmatch and it was a painful cut to my heart thinking about how if this is true, the likelihood of me ever finding a girlfriend/wife I'm actually attracted to narrows to zero

With what certainty and within what looks range would you guys say I'm destined to never break out of? Does this range change if I'm 190cm and muscular gymcel?

I'm 4/10 facially and 9/10 body and I struggle severely with all woman I come into contact with. There is simply never any interest.

Interest, generally speaking, is either there immediately, within a minute or two, or not at all. For me it's always none. Height and muscle does nothing for me.
9/10 body, I doubt that
 
1. Women don't feel love even for Chads
2. No
 
No all you can look foward to is either looksmax/surgey max, betabuxx, ER or ER then rope combo
 
No man.

If you moneymaxx or statusmaxx you'll get one but only due to that.
 
I'd like to hope if I ever have a wife she'll be well kept and take care of herself, and perhaps somewhat feminine/pretty or something. I was thinking today about how women are very reluctant to ever go below their looksmatch and it was a painful cut to my heart thinking about how if this is true, the likelihood of me ever finding a girlfriend/wife I'm actually attracted to narrows to zero

With what certainty and within what looks range would you guys say I'm destined to never break out of? Does this range change if I'm 190cm and muscular gymcel?

I'm 4/10 facially and 9/10 body and I struggle severely with all woman I come into contact with. There is simply never any interest.

Interest, generally speaking, is either there immediately, within a minute or two, or not at all. For me it's always none. Height and muscle does nothing for me.
There is no gym for your face.

An old adage but it's true.
 
This is a retarded question.
 
I read the title ''
As a 4/10 chad male, can I ever expect to get a pleasantly attractive 7-8+/10 girl to truly love me? ''
Chadcels.is
 
I'm absolutely sure my face is 4/10. Three of my male friends said I'm 2 or 3/10 even.

I have low bodyfat yet still a seeming double chin and mild face melting into neck from recessed chin and jawline, negative canthal tilt, flat midface and cheekbones, bald head, thin eyebrows and thin head hair remaining on my Norwood 7 head. I'm also pale as fuck. fish lips on a narrow mouth with straight yet narrow teeth. Everything seems "funnelled" asymmetrically through my face, with the funnel point my mouth, if you can imagine that

I'm white too
Never began boyo.
Just become a billionaire bro, suddenly women will "love you for who you are".
Soy1

This is a retarded question.
Tbh.
 
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wtf 8+ is entering stacy zone. Don't make public and bluepillers have the means to say "incels only want model tiers"
 

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