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Serious Are NT's Actually Capable Of Feeling Empathy For Others

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You might look at this question and go "duh", why is it even a word then? Why is that concept mentioned and emphasized everywhere? But I theorize it's actually meant to force others to pretend to be cooperative and the concept is valued as a form of self deception, so people can believe they are good. Occasionally you have the do gooder types who try to prove this to themselves and others through their actions. But in reality they don't care about the actual people they are supposed to be helping, only about doing the specific task to help their image, make themselves feel good or as some form of masochistic self punishment or religious ideal. You might claim they are empathetic towards chads and women but that's just simpering because they have higher status or it's in their self interest to do so. Think of how society regards low status men, who have nothing to offer others, does anyone feel empathy towards their suffering, even other low status men don't care. Sure they'll pretend to be helpful by giving out useless advice, either to make themselves look good or feel superior, but they are too busy to even give us a moment of their time and actually be accepting, caring or affectionate.
 
No, NT’s are psychopathic
 
I don't know, I'm a low IQ autist
 
It would actually benefit society to help out low status men and accept them. Without low status men contributing to society it will go through a period of turmoil. As more men stop contributing to a society that doesn't give them anything in return there will be massive problems that the governments of western nations will be totally unequipped to deal with. They can deal with war, with enemy states and terrorists but the one thing they will not be able to stop is an attack from with their very walls.
 
Nein, wir müssen sie ausrotten.
 
nah, it's all an act they put on because they are told to
 
I can feel empathy for others, except foids of course.
 
It would actually benefit society to help out low status men and accept them. Without low status men contributing to society it will go through a period of turmoil. As more men stop contributing to a society that doesn't give them anything in return there will be massive problems that the governments of western nations will be totally unequipped to deal with. They can deal with war, with enemy states and terrorists but the one thing they will not be able to stop is an attack from with their very walls.


Lucifer IQ
 
Humans can't understand each other, in general.
 
They feel empathy I believe but not sympathy; there is a distinction between the two, everything is a transaction so ppl lie to get their own way, fake being good to enhance their image around others & generally only go out of their way with good deeds as they stand to gain something.

If you're ugly, hold no worth/skill in demand, are in a position society deems low value (poor, autistic, low paying job) or it's acceptable to hate you due to being bracketed into a negative category (drug addict, Peado, midget) then ppl will fuck with you as it's unlikely anyone will have your back & chances are others will join in with the bullying rather than put a stop to it as it's seen as acceptable behaviour due to your status.

There are some good ppl but as they get older they either stop trying as they realize the majority of this species fucking sucks tbh & isn't worth the effort or get the altruistic optimism beaten out of them then become apathetic, join the club or rope.

More often than not the nicest ppl are the cripples, downtrodden & broken. The worst? Those that got their own way all their lives or the little suckup followers that don't have their own personality.
 
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They feel empathy I believe but not sympathy; there is a distinction between the two, everything is a transaction so ppl lie to get their own way, fake being good to enhance their image around others & generally only go out of their way with good deeds as they stand to gain something.
What is the distinction between empathy and sympathy? I am referencing emotional empathy, the ability to feel negative about other people's physical and emotional pain, in this post.

If you're ugly, hold no worth/skill in demand, are in a position society deems low value (poor, autistic, low paying job) or it's acceptable to hate you due to being bracketed into a negative category (drug addict, Peado, midget) then ppl will fuck with you as it's unlikely anyone will have your back & chances are others will join in with the bullying rather than put a stop to it as it's seen as acceptable behaviour due to your status.
This is extremely true, but they don't necessarily hate you, they just see you as an easy target they can take out their frustrations on or torture for fun.

There are some good ppl but as they get older they either stop trying as they realize the majority of this species fucking sucks tbh & isn't worth the effort or get the altruistic optimism beaten out of them then become apathetic, join the club or rope.
Seems like what happened to many people here.

More often than not the nicest ppl are the cripples, downtrodden & broken. The worst? Those that got their own way all their lives or the little suckup followers that don't have their own personality.
I think that's because the cripples, downtrodden and broken hope for approval and validation from others by being nice, though they often don't get it. When everyone gives you what you desire then you have no incentive to act nice.
 
You might look at this question and go "duh", why is it even a word then? Why is that concept mentioned and emphasized everywhere? But I theorize it's actually meant to force others to pretend to be cooperative and the concept is valued as a form of self deception, so people can believe they are good. Occasionally you have the do gooder types who try to prove this to themselves and others through their actions. But in reality they don't care about the actual people they are supposed to be helping, only about doing the specific task to help their image, make themselves feel good or as some form of masochistic self punishment or religious ideal. You might claim they are empathetic towards chads and women but that's just simpering because they have higher status or it's in their self interest to do so. Think of how society regards low status men, who have nothing to offer others, does anyone feel empathy towards their suffering, even other low status men don't care. Sure they'll pretend to be helpful by giving out useless advice, either to make themselves look good or feel superior, but they are too busy to even give us a moment of their time and actually be accepting, caring or affectionate.
Non nt= based sane person
Nt= psychotic spectrum

That's it for me
 
Yes, sometimes anyway
 
What is the distinction between empathy and sympathy? I am referencing emotional empathy, the ability to feel negative about other people's physical and emotional pain, in this post.

empathy as in being able to relate to others & understand where people are coming from in relation to their thoughts on a matter, how to behave etc, part of the group rather than apart from it.

sympathy as in being able to feel bad for someone or willing to assist/help if possible, I guess similar to compassion.


This is extremely true, but they don't necessarily hate you, they just see you as an easy target they can take out their frustrations on or torture for fun.

better to join with the bully than be the next target in effect.

Seems like what happened to many people here.


I think that's because the cripples, downtrodden and broken hope for approval and validation from others by being nice, though they often don't get it. When everyone gives you what you desire then you have no incentive to act nice.

yeah I think those that are shit on all the time notice more when someone is actually treating them without contempt so it's appreciated.
 
I’m an aspie but some aspies can be mean/rude too
Probably the spoilt ones.

How Neurotypicals are when around one another
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How an Autistic in the wild feels
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Man this post is low IQ as hell. NTs feel empathy much more than autists. Autists are the ones who have a hard time relating to people and understanding people.
I am discussing emotional empathy not cognitive empathy, which you are describing.
 
Man this post is low IQ as hell. NTs feel empathy much more than autists. Autists are the ones who have a hard time relating to people and understanding people.
true. the term autist has been skewed over time. OP probably just means people that are bottom barrel like us and since we suffer so much, we in return have a better understanding as to how other people that have also suffered feel. we have been there, we know
 
NTs typically laugh at a persons pain (falling off of bike). I have seen this from NT kids every time. My brothers and I (all some degree of blackpill, redpill, 4chan-user) didn't. I don't think all NT adults do it though.

Don't know what it means.
 
Mostly for people they perceive to be within their "in-group". That excludes incels.
 
You're making the assumption that NTs do it out of pretense or coercion. Not everyone is feigning their actions and emotions.
If you never feigned your actions or emotions you'd have serious issues with people. So you'd be considered as having poor social skills and be labelled as autistic. Manipulation and deception are considered necessary aspects of social interaction.
 
what's the difference?
If you never feigned your actions or emotions you'd have serious issues with people. So you'd be considered as having poor social skills and be labelled as autistic. Manipulation and deception are considered necessary aspects of social interaction.
No wonder Autistic ppl suck with socializing.
 
Giving up your bus seat for an elderly person.

Letting a disabled person get in front your spot in a queue.

Helping blind person cross the street.
As usual you confuse actions which help others with feeling empathy towards and caring about the other person. Those are just examples of people following social rules in order to convince themselves and/or others that they are good. Suppose if there was a society where elderly people, visibly disabled people and blind people were a hated group like Nazis/pedos, then no NT would do these things.
 
I find the notion that all elderly ppl are saints hilarious, they may of been bullies in their younger days, bad parents or just assholes.
 
That's just a shallow way of looking at it. Proves that autists can't empathize with others in the way NTs can.
I empathize perfectly. Nice ad hominem, only a matter of time before an NT starts gas-lighting and manipulating, to win a debate. Very psychopathic/NT of you .
 
That' not ad hominem. That's me proving my point when you wrote that people were just following social rules. You couldn't understand their actual motivations, the empathy behind their actions. That makes you shallow.
Ok hypothetical, if Autistics can't feel empathy & therefore cannot fit in with NT ppl easily not through any fault of their own but the neuro pathways being different in terms of high/low traffic layout akin to highways & back roads, this being formed through natural growth & therefore a lifelong condition, well then the question is what's to be done about it?

A leopard can't change it's spots, we can't change the way our brains are formed.

Intervention at an early age as in extra tuition in regards to social skills, force the person to fight their nature & forever struggle to suppress it?

The meet us halfway theory, the majority (NT) make exceptions for us & we also try to adapt to your expectations?

Mass euthanasia of the "defective"?

Leper like colonies for Autistics, out of sight out of mind?

Continue as we are with ludicrously high suicide, celibacy & unemployment rates for Autists?

Genetic editing early on to remove those "defective" genes if spotted pre-birth ala crispr?
 
Ok hypothetical, if Autistics can't feel empathy & therefore cannot fit in with NT ppl easily not through any fault of their own but the neuro pathways being different in terms of high/low traffic layout akin to highways & back roads, this being formed through natural growth & therefore a lifelong condition, well then the question is what's to be done about it?

A leopard can't change it's spots, we can't change the way our brains are formed.

Intervention at an early age as in extra tuition in regards to social skills, force the person to fight their nature & forever struggle to suppress it?

The meet us halfway theory, the majority (NT) make exceptions for us & we also try to adapt to your expectations?

Mass euthanasia of the "defective"?

Leper like colonies for Autistics, out of sight out of mind?

Continue as we are with ludicrously high suicide, celibacy & unemployment rates for Autists?

Genetic editing early on to remove those "defective" genes if spotted pre-birth ala crispr?
I hate my low-inhib reckless autist behaviours I barely can control due to low impulse control and lack of common sense.
 
genomic studies to identify the genes responsible for autism. Then gene edit to remove autism genes.

yes
If you're a major in the S part of stem wanna get on that then?

Question, the increase of those on the spectrum in recent decades, is there an actual increase & if so what are the causes, is there just more awareness of it hence the higher report rate or has society just changed in such a way that it's actually harder to fit in with society in this age compared to the past as an Autistic (examples; women's higher standards in regards to men, much more competitive environment due to higher population & fewer resources to go around, more big corporations & less small businesses with psychos at the top pushing this "hyper extraverted social-maxxed" expectations from employees, faster paced lifestyle, social media putting a spotlight on loners thus highlighting the "losers".)

Net result, less chance of getting a relationship as a male with ASD, harder time getting & keeping a job, more pressure from peers leading to higher bullying rates & increased risk of negative social experiences during important formulative years.
Outcome - High chance of mental disorders.
 
Maybe for other nts but absolutely not for non-nts
 
No

They are NPC who feel empathy on what they are told to. For example they will feel empathy for a woman getting beaten who Cheated on her husband but not for the husband who got Cheated on cause he is the bad guy and couldn't please his girlfriend :soy: :soy:
 
NTs are all capable of empathy, but the idea that you need empathy to not be a monster is a bs narrative made to demonize those who don't cry and weep at any minor inconvenience that happens to foids and Chads. (The only ones normans actually care about)

Despite not feeling much empathy like normshits do, i have morals derived from logic, but only towards the minority of people who are self aware enough to not be deceived by bs societal double standards and mass manipulation, anyone who isn't a deluded narcissist realizes solipsism is bullshit and your life not being inherently more valuable than the life of ppl who have similarly grown self aware; Think about it, if someone kills a lion or a cow it's fine, but of course if you do it to another person it's murder, it's not a matter of species but self awareness, the biggest determinant of moral value.
In short, a human without self awareness is barely worth more than a gorilla.
 
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No. NT are sociopaths by default. They feel no empathy or remorse and only worse in self interest.
 
Yes, but only if you aren't ugly. If you're ugly then it is just virtue signaling for the most part.
 
Man this post is low IQ as hell. NTs feel empathy much more than autists. Autists are the ones who have a hard time relating to people and understanding people.
Low iq. Assburgers feel real emotions but won't show them
 
You couldn't understand their actual motivations, the empathy behind their actions. That makes you shallow.
i can understand and feel empathy it's NT's who don't feel it but constantly pretend to. When in a situation where social rules punish empathy, the true colors of the NT's are shown.
 
I could match those cunts with my psychopathic behaviour.
 

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