Discussion [Alt-history cels gih] What if Operation Unthinkable happened?

[Castaway]

Operation Unthinkable was the name given to two related possible future war plans developed by the British Chiefs of Staff Committee against the Soviet Union during 1945. The plans were never implemented. The creation of the plans was ordered by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in May 1945 and developed by the British Armed Forces' Joint Planning Staff in May 1945 at the end of World War II in Europe.[1]

A map of the Allies and the Soviet Bloc at the end of World War II.
One plan assumed a surprise attack on the Soviet forces stationed in Germany to impose "the will of the United States and British Empire upon Russia".[2] "The will" was qualified as "a square deal for Poland",[3]which probably meant enforcing the recently signed Yalta Agreement.

Operation Unthinkable - Wikipedia

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Discuss all possible scenarios.

 

[Castaway]

@Anarcho Nihilist @DarkStar @Horatio Prime Kanga @AutistSupremacist @Regenerator

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Why even bother thinking of this plan to attack the USSR when the Axis powers were already hellbent on doing it, surely Churchill would've known the Reds would eventually become enough of a threat and join the Axis as Mosley and Edward wanted. But post ww2, I don't think the allies could defeat Comrade Stalin unless they somehow made nuclear weapons really quickly

 

[Horatio NiggER bird]

hold on, I need to find something real quick

 

[Horatio NiggER bird]

hold on, I need to find something real quick

Something like this except instead of Patton being crazy it's Churchill lol


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8B3ceKwV8Q

 

[weaselbomber]

It's important to remember that the Soviet Union was running low on manpower by the end of WW2. It wasn't as if they were running thin but there was a reason as to why random Siberian villagers started being conscripted.
Contrast this with America, who was relatively unscathed still, and the other lesser known Allied powers which undoubtedly would've been pressured to contribute to this war effort, namely Mexico and Brazil. And combine with possible anti-communist guerrilas in places such as Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia and the Baltics, it doesn't really seem as one-sided as a lot of people make this scenario out to be.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

The M4 Shermans will be on Red Square.
The USSR was completely dependent on Western Lend Lease, but not in terms of tanks or other things, but in food, if not for the United States, the Wehrmacht would have defeated the Red Army, since it simply would have nothing to eat.

 

[Regenerator]

The western allies would have nuked the USSR by 1950

 

[DarkStar]

Either the USSR -which as @weaselbomber pointed out was already weakened- would have been nuked by the 1950s or so, but the US with its manpower & industry combined with the rest of the allies(UK, Canada, Australia, Brazil, etc.) I'd say they could have pushed them back but wouldn't have made it to Moscow, probably no further than the Baltics.