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Theory "All sex is rape" - a primer

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This is often brought up as a silly thing feminists say. But do you understand where this phrase comes from and what is precisely meant by it? Allow me to explain.

Andrea Dworkin
In her lifetime, Andrea Dworkin remained a controversial feminist figure due to her views which were sometimes regarded as ‘sex-negative’. However, regardless of whether you agree with her overall conclusions, many of her critiques concerning the problematic aspects of society prove to be quite valuable. Her most prominent text, Intercourse, is notable for its coarse and direct language, as well as the liberal use of literature to illustrate certain points.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbhpnyE5Lc


Heterosexual Intercourse as Rape
According to Dworkin, popular conceptions of heterosexual intercourse often normalize forms of hostile sexism that subordinate women and remove their agency. Typically, women are viewed as sexual prey that is to be conquered by the dominant male who, in doing so, achieves possession of the woman. Dworkin expresses this slightly more crudely when she writes that intercourse is commonly conceptualized as:
“a form of possession or an act of possession in which, during which, because of which, a man inhabits a woman, physically covering her and overwhelming her and at the same time penetrating her; and this physical relation to her—over her and inside her—is his possession of her. He has her, or, when he is done, he has had her. By thrusting into her, he takes her over. His thrusting into her is taken to be her capitulation to him as a conqueror; it is a physical surrender of herself to him; he occupies and rules her, expresses his elemental dominance over her, by his possession of her in the” (79) act.
Dworkin adds that often the act is “taken to be an act of invasion and ownership undertaken in a mode of predation” (79-80).

What Is Andrea Dworkin Saying?
Heterosexual intercourse as an enduring institution positions men as the "fucker" and women as the "fucked". There can be no true consent in a society where women are always subordinated to men, thus all heterosexual intercourse is performed under coercion.

Does Andrea Dworkin Believe That All Heterosexual Sex Is Rape?
Well, no. The phrase is often miscredit to her, though her theory ultimately points to that conclusion. Under patriarchy, there can be no consensual heterosexual sex. Whether Dworkin's theory holds true or not depends on whether you believe there exists a patriarchy oppressing women.
 
What am I supposed to take from this thread? :ping:
 
Postmodernist thinkers should shut the fuck up
 
What am I supposed to take from this thread? :ping:
You're supposed to have a greater understanding of what feminists mean when they say "all sex is rape". The reasoning behind the statement.
 
i mean,its over anyways.
 
Postmodernist thinkers should shut the fuck up
This^

Most of it is fucking retarded idiocy that’s provided no value except for it’s adherents to wank themselves off and feel superior despite just being wrong 9 times out of 10.

Notice this women in the OP says “heterosexual” intercourse is always rape :feelsseriously: uh huh, gays are excerpt once again then.

My bet is this woman was very bitter because she couldn’t pull Chad and like most women makes the apex fallacy when it comes to men. That’s how they always come to their fucking stupid conclusions about “muh male privilege”. On average women enjoy a tremendous amount of privilege in the modern day yet all of society does this song and dance for how “no no it’s the straight men who are privileged”. They’re just full of shit.
 
it is correct. its about conquering the whore by force
 

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