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Advice (sort of) from an oldtimer

Divergent_Integral

Divergent_Integral

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This year, unless the world suddenly goes to shit or some horrific accident befalls me, I'll be 38. That's rather old for a member of this forum. Though I understand there's a couple of guys on here in their 40s or even 50s, the vast majority of you seem to be in your 20s.

Speaking as the oldtimer that I am, my advice to the younger guys is simply to stay alive, even if barely. If there's no absolutely urgent reason to rope, just try to cope. I won't sugarcoat things by saying that it'll all get better. Your life, unless you miraculously ascend, probably won't improve in any meaningful sense. However (and this is my main point), as you grow older and survive into your mid-to-late 30s, the emotional fallout from inceldom tends to become a bit more manageable. At least it has for me. Of course everyone's situation in life is different, but from my (admittedly limited) interactions with other older incels, I've been able to gather that for most men the experience of inceldom does tend to lose its sharpest edge with time.

There are other things in life besides sex and romance. I'm not saying that to denigrate anyone's pain or sense of bereavement. Feeling pain and grief, or anger even, are totally understandable and legitimate reactions to the experience of long-term inceldom. I simply mean it as a statement of fact. As the years pass me by, I've dived deeper and deeper into my many copes: reading widely and deeply, growing my collection of movies and tv-series, composing music, chess, cookery etc. Taken together, all these copes almost amount to a satisfying sort of existence.

My perception of my own inceldom is nowadays fluent and ambivalent. On the one hand, inceldom has been an absolutely devastating thing for me to experience, both emotionally and spiritually. No denying that. Not only shall I, in all likelihood, remain a physical cripple for the rest of my life, but due to my inceldom I'll remain a sociosexual cripple as well. Rollo Tomassi, PUA grifting bastard that he is, was quite right in saying that lacking the female touch in a man's life is like having a limb amputated. In pushing that apt metaphor a bit further, all I can say is that the acute pain of having your leg sawn off eventually passes. You will still feel occasional phantom pains and all sorts of other inconveniences in your daily life, of course. It's just that, eventually, you learn to live with it. Inceldom, unless you ascend, will always be there. But it will be in the background most of the time, instead of the constant foreground item that it once was.

Finally I'd like to say — take care, all you supreme gentlemen. I wish you the best. This will be my final post on here, at least for the time being.
 
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This year, unless the world suddenly goes to shit or some horrific accident befalls me, I'll be 38. That's rather old for a member of this forum. Though I understand there's a couple of guys on here in their 40s or even 50s, the vast majority of you seem to be in your 20s.

Speaking as the oldtimer that I am, my advice to the younger guys is simply to stay alive. If there's no absolutely urgent reason to rope, just try to cope. I won't sugarcoat things by saying that it'll all get better. Your life, unless you miraculously ascend, probably won't improve in any meaningful sense. However (and this is my main point), as you grow older and survive into your mid-to-late 30s, the emotional fallout from inceldom tends to become a bit more manageable. At least it has for me. Of course everyone's situation in life is different, but from my (admittedly limited) interactions with other older incels, I've been able to gather that the experience of inceldom does tend to lose its sharpest edge with time.

There are other things in life besides sex and romance. I'm not saying that to denigrate anyone's pain or sense of bereavement. Feeling pain and grief, or anger even, are totally understandable and legitimate reactions to the experience of long-term inceldom. I simply mean it as a statement of fact. As the years pass me by, I've gone deeper and deeper into my many copes: reading widely and deeply, growing my collection of movies and tv-series, composing music, chess, cookery etc. Taken together, all these copes almost amount to a satisfying sort of existence.

My perception of my own inceldom is nowadays fluent and ambivalent. On the one hand, inceldom has been an absolutely devastating thing for me to experience, both emotionally and spiritually. No denying that. Not only shall I, in all likelihood, remain a physical cripple for the rest of my life, but due to my inceldom I'll remain a sociosexual cripple as well. Rollo Tomassi, PUA grifting bastard that he is, was quite right in saying that lacking the female touch in a man's life is like having a limb amputated. In pushing that apt metaphor a bit further, all I can say is that the acute pain of having your leg sawn off eventually passes. You will still feel occasional phantom pains and all sorts of other inconveniences in your daily life, of course. It's just that, eventually, you learn to live with it. Inceldom, unless you ascend, will always be there. But it will be in the background most of the time, instead of the constant foreground item that it once was.

Finally I'd like to say — take care, all you supreme gentlemen. I wish you the best. This will be my final post on here, at least for the time being.
goodbye thanks for this great post:cryfeels:.
 
Thank you. Take care.
 
No fucking way am i gonna make it to my 30s if nothing changes. Every day ill have to live knowing I missed out on young love when i have to see it everywhere around me
 
Good Thread

I enjoyed your presence on the forum. Farewell.
 
This year, unless the world suddenly goes to shit or some horrific accident befalls me, I'll be 38. That's rather old for a member of this forum. Though I understand there's a couple of guys on here in their 40s or even 50s, the vast majority of you seem to be in your 20s.
19 :feelsjuice:
Speaking as the oldtimer that I am, my advice to the younger guys is simply to stay alive. If there's no absolutely urgent reason to rope, just try to cope.
Tfw you cant afford copes and the copes you can afford cant help much
I won't sugarcoat things by saying that it'll all get better. Your life, unless you miraculously ascend, probably won't improve in any meaningful sense. However (and this is my main point), as you grow older and survive into your mid-to-late 30s, the emotional fallout from inceldom tends to become a bit more manageable. At least it has for me. Of course everyone's situation in life is different, but from my (admittedly limited) interactions with other older incels, I've been able to gather that the experience of inceldom does tend to lose its sharpest edge with time.
Id kms if i dont ascend in 2 to 3 years and figure out my situation
There are other things in life besides sex and romance. I'm not saying that to denigrate anyone's pain or sense of bereavement. Feeling pain and grief, or anger even, are totally understandable and legitimate reactions to the experience of long-term inceldom. I simply mean it as a statement of fact. As the years pass me by, I've gone deeper and deeper into my many copes: reading widely and deeply, growing my collection of movies and tv-series, composing music, chess, cookery etc. Taken together, all these copes almost amount to a satisfying sort of existence.
That's all irrelevant if you have no one special to follow you in your journey.
My perception of my own inceldom is nowadays fluent and ambivalent. On the one hand, inceldom has been an absolutely devastating thing for me to experience, both emotionally and spiritually. No denying that. Not only shall I, in all likelihood, remain a physical cripple for the rest of my life, but due to my inceldom I'll remain a sociosexual cripple as well. Rollo Tomassi, PUA grifting bastard that he is, was quite right in saying that lacking the female touch in a man's life is like having a limb amputated. In pushing that apt metaphor a bit further, all I can say is that the acute pain of having your leg sawn off eventually passes. You will still feel occasional phantom pains and all sorts of other inconveniences in your daily life, of course. It's just that, eventually, you learn to live with it. Inceldom, unless you ascend, will always be there. But it will be in the background most of the time, instead of the constant foreground item that it once was.
Yes it will always be in the background... Until its night and you cry yourself to sleep.
Finally I'd like to say — take care, all you supreme gentlemen. I wish you the best. This will be my final post on here, at least for the time being.
Take care :feelsokman:
No fucking way am i gonna make it to my 30s if nothing changes. Every day ill have to live knowing I missed out on young love when i have to see it everywhere around me
If i dont ascend in 2 or 3 years, its over.
 
JFL at roping over pussy. Simp trait :soy:
Nope there are other things in my life, and i honestly dont think i wanna go through them alone :feelsjuice:.
Also jfl at rotting on a forum over pussy. Simp trait
 
Also jfl at rotting on a forum over pussy. Simp trait
It is.
Though, to be fair, inceldom is about general exclusion and poor genetics, not simply pussy (fakecels won't understand).
 
Thanks for the food for thought. I've been thinking about the future as well since im graduating college soon yet have lost all my drive and whatever passion i've had over the years due to the obvious.

I think it will be easier to cope when i dont have to go to university and get mogged constantly. I can just wageslave at a 9-5 and spend the rest of my time coping. Worst case if i really cant take it i'll just NEET and leech off my parents.

Kinda ironic how as the opportunity and hope for ascension becomes more remote it becomes easier to cope
 
It is.
Though, to be fair, inceldom is about general exclusion and poor genetics, not simply pussy (fakecels won't understand).
If i wasnt excluded i wouldnt have 13 days on this forum after joining 3 weeks ago. :lul::lul::lul:
Also you wouldnt care about your poor genetics if you were getting your dick wet. Its about pussy, stop coping.
 
If i wasnt excluded i wouldnt have 13 days on this forum after joining 3 weeks ago. :lul::lul::lul:
Also you wouldnt care about your poor genetics if you were getting your dick wet. Its about pussy, stop coping.
If had better genes for CSmaxxing and shit like that I'd moneymaxx to copemaxx and get all the escort coochie in the world. It's not all about ascending.
 
If had better genes for CSmaxxing and shit like that I'd moneymaxx to copemaxx and get all the escort coochie in the world. It's not all about ascending.
:bluepill:
@PPEcel is a millionaire yet he is fucking miserable
 
@PPEcel is a millionaire yet he is fucking miserable
I don't believe his crocodile tears. He comes here to mock trucels you numb nut.
 
There is no future in this world in which i am happy. life is just a routine of slaving, eating, shitting and sleeping. When nobody cares about you, you might as well not exist.
 
Thanks it was a good read, good luck to you.
 
:bluepill:
@PPEcel is a millionaire yet he is fucking miserable
I'd rather be a miserable and depressed millionaire than be miserable and depressed while being broke :feelsokman:
 
as another oldcel, my life is very much the opposite.

loneliness is only part of the problem. health issues begin to arise, financial problems, e.g. life just throws neverending shit your way and you are on your own for all of it. the copes stop working eventually.

you wanna die shitting yourself at the age of 80 with a lifetime of regret? fuck that.
 
Just be a cuck theory.

 
There is no future in this world in which i am happy. life is just a routine of slaving, eating, shitting and sleeping. When nobody cares about you, you might as well not exist.
The shitting and sleeping parts are the best
 
I'm generally happiest when I'm being productive and working on my hobbies. That being said I still feel the need to come here because I don't want to talk to normies (even online, as I don't talk to anyone IRL).
 
Just give bland advice and quit kid.

See you tomorrow
 
ascension is a myth - and only good looking tall mentalcels ascend
 
Good thread I turn 28 in 3 months time.
 
I'm generally happiest when I'm being productive and working on my hobbies. That being said I still feel the need to come here because I don't want to talk to normies (even online, as I don't talk to anyone IRL).
Me too I like physics
 
lol you tell them to just live through a miserable experience because eventually your libido starts to die and you get over it then at the end you talk about how horrible life has been for you

I'm a little younger at 32 and I say things won't get better for us until we force them to make it better
 
we prey for whar and the end times my firends .
 
Yeah must Be worst at The point in your Life that you should Be breeding.
 
This year, unless the world suddenly goes to shit or some horrific accident befalls me, I'll be 38. That's rather old for a member of this forum. Though I understand there's a couple of guys on here in their 40s or even 50s, the vast majority of you seem to be in your 20s.

Speaking as the oldtimer that I am, my advice to the younger guys is simply to stay alive, even if barely. If there's no absolutely urgent reason to rope, just try to cope. I won't sugarcoat things by saying that it'll all get better. Your life, unless you miraculously ascend, probably won't improve in any meaningful sense. However (and this is my main point), as you grow older and survive into your mid-to-late 30s, the emotional fallout from inceldom tends to become a bit more manageable. At least it has for me. Of course everyone's situation in life is different, but from my (admittedly limited) interactions with other older incels, I've been able to gather that for most men the experience of inceldom does tend to lose its sharpest edge with time.

There are other things in life besides sex and romance. I'm not saying that to denigrate anyone's pain or sense of bereavement. Feeling pain and grief, or anger even, are totally understandable and legitimate reactions to the experience of long-term inceldom. I simply mean it as a statement of fact. As the years pass me by, I've dived deeper and deeper into my many copes: reading widely and deeply, growing my collection of movies and tv-series, composing music, chess, cookery etc. Taken together, all these copes almost amount to a satisfying sort of existence.

My perception of my own inceldom is nowadays fluent and ambivalent. On the one hand, inceldom has been an absolutely devastating thing for me to experience, both emotionally and spiritually. No denying that. Not only shall I, in all likelihood, remain a physical cripple for the rest of my life, but due to my inceldom I'll remain a sociosexual cripple as well. Rollo Tomassi, PUA grifting bastard that he is, was quite right in saying that lacking the female touch in a man's life is like having a limb amputated. In pushing that apt metaphor a bit further, all I can say is that the acute pain of having your leg sawn off eventually passes. You will still feel occasional phantom pains and all sorts of other inconveniences in your daily life, of course. It's just that, eventually, you learn to live with it. Inceldom, unless you ascend, will always be there. But it will be in the background most of the time, instead of the constant foreground item that it once was.

Finally I'd like to say — take care, all you supreme gentlemen. I wish you the best. This will be my final post on here, at least for the time being.
Hey there my friend,

Nice to read your post and, I'm 39. I can confirm most of what you said (take note all you youngcels) and I hope we can expand on the conversation. Let those youngcels and zoomers learn a thing or two about their future. Just one thing I would go a step further and say that EVEN IF they miraculously acsended, there is no guarantee that they wouldn't un-ascend. And that's where many of the problems start. Once they get married and become cucked, they will have a hard time reconciling what they knew from their Incel days, especially the more blackpilled they truly were..

..This is how it all works.


Please post more often and I am always up for discussing these sort of things. As you rightly said, many of the users on ere are in their 20's or even teens. Some of them have never done a hard day's work in their life. They got rejected in High school by girls, like all of us, and they are fresh out of the 12th grade. Having to live through the devestating relationships to come (not just foid, but could be family, friends, coworkers, loss of job, illness etc) and whatever the hell else comes their way is something which should humble them when in the presence of other more experienced members who. they could ask advice from or have meaningful exchanges with. Some of them instead desire to suffer without exploring new techniques and ways of thinking and even throw insults to make themselves feel better.

I left the United States after 36 years of living there, born and rased. I set up a life for myself in India. I am lucky to be of that ethnic background also, and so in the hope of survival, I had to did it. I was lucky also to meet the people I've met here. Now, I work part time, I am partially NEET, and I just enjoy time with my canines. Enjoy the time we have left as best as possible. Work on the things which need working on. Survive!
 
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Yeah must Be worst at The point in your Life that you should Be breeding.
Fuck that. It's not the worst. Whats the worst would be breeding in a world that's upside down like this one !
 
Thanks for the food for thought. I've been thinking about the future as well since im graduating college soon yet have lost all my drive and whatever passion i've had over the years due to the obvious.

I think it will be easier to cope when i dont have to go to university and get mogged constantly. I can just wageslave at a 9-5 and spend the rest of my time coping. Worst case if i really cant take it i'll just NEET and leech off my parents.

Kinda ironic how as the opportunity and hope for ascension becomes more remote it becomes easier to cope
There you go.
 
beautifully written. great metaphor for the pain of inceldom...

if i don't ever ascend, i hope to achieve exactly the same in life.

i wish you the best, my fellow wizardcel.
 
Perfect example of a Uber zoomer oozing with vitriolic retard-level arrogance towards his own seniors who have been through much more than he has of the same intensity and category.
Tfw you cant afford copes and the copes you can afford cant help much.
Learn to adapt your copes over time. There's no rush.
Id kms if i dont ascend in 2 to 3 years and figure out my situation.
Maybe you should do that now? Why make anyone suffer. You probably won't ascend.
That's all irrelevant if you have no one special to follow you in your journey.
No fuck that. I mean you welcomed to say what you want, but I'm welcomed to counter you. You're a kid. i.e. - An inexperienced idiot.
Yes it will always be in the background... Until its night and you cry yourself to sleep.
You know nothing about it. Look at you.. talking like you know. At 19? I am happy to sleep next to my canines at night and no it's not at all like you say. Is it tough, yes. But let us tell you that, not the other way around. @Divergent_Integral is 38, I am 39, again who are you trying to tell boy? How do you know what it's like, or not like, at our age?

Remember, I know what it was like to be 19 and full of one's self, we all do, we did it way before you did it. So step back and learn.
If i dont ascend in 2 or 3 years, its over.
Silly attitude. You know nothing. On a scale of 1-10 your accomplishment level in all things compared to us is Zero. Negative 5 in fact. If you keep this same attitude, why not make it over now, why wait 2 or 3 years?
 
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Perfect example of a Uber zoomer oozing with vitriolic retarded arrogance towards his own seniors who have been through much more than he has of the same intensity and category.

Learn to adapt your copes over time. There's no rush.

Maybe you should do that now? Why make anyone suffer. You probably won't ascend.

No fuck that. I mean you welcomed to say what you want, but I'm welcomed to counter you. You're a kid. i.e. - An inexperienced idiot.

You know nothing about it. Look at you talking like you know. At fucking 19? I am happy to sleep next to my dogs at night and no it's not at all like you say. Is it tough, yes. But let us tell you that, not the other way around. @Divergent_Integral is 38, I am 39, who the fuck you telling young boy? How do you know what it's like or not like at our age? Remember, I know what it was like to be 19 and full of one's self, an asshole, we all do, we did it way before you did it. So step back and learn !

Stupid attitude. You know nothing. On a scale of 1-10 your accomplishment level in all things compared to us is Zero. Negative 5 in fact. If you keep this same attitude, why not make it over now, why wait 2 or 3 years?
I'm 22, 5'5'' and ugly and ethnic. It's over.
 
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I'm 22, 5'5'' and ugly and ethnic. It's over.
It might be "over" you with foid. But I suspect the real reason you are here is because you want to live. There is more to come for you my friend. Much more. I won't say it's going to be a jolly high-life with a lot of fidelity, the world we live in now is tougher than ever, but you might discover a purpose. You are still young. Sorry if this sounds a bit cliche but just because something SOUNDS cliche doesn't mean its wrong !

Realising this itself could be a hard blackpill. That you are making it harder than it has to be. You don't need sex to survive and you'll have people around you for a lot longer to get you to a point where you can live alone. Shit, I had plenty of people around me at times in my past, but I also got used to being alone, and mostly happy to be alone throughout the day. It's not that terrible. It's a lot better than building the hellish social life required for norman survival. Trust me.
 
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Perfect example of a Uber zoomer oozing with vitriolic retard-level arrogance towards his own seniors who have been through much more than he has of the same intensity and category.

Learn to adapt your copes over time. There's no rush.

Maybe you should do that now? Why make anyone suffer. You probably won't ascend.

No fuck that. I mean you welcomed to say what you want, but I'm welcomed to counter you. You're a kid. i.e. - An inexperienced idiot.

You know nothing about it. Look at you.. talking like you know. At 19? I am happy to sleep next to my canines at night and no it's not at all like you say. Is it tough, yes. But let us tell you that, not the other way around. @Divergent_Integral is 38, I am 39, again who are you trying to tell boy? How do you know what it's like, or not like, at our age?

Remember, I know what it was like to be 19 and full of one's self, we all do, we did it way before you did it. So step back and learn.

Silly attitude. You know nothing. On a scale of 1-10 your accomplishment level in all things compared to us is Zero. Negative 5 in fact. If you keep this same attitude, why not make it over now, why wait 2 or 3 years?

Perfect example of a Uber zoomer oozing with vitriolic retard-level arrogance towards his own seniors who have been through much more than he has of the same intensity and category.

Learn to adapt your copes over time. There's no rush.

Maybe you should do that now? Why make anyone suffer. You probably won't ascend.

No fuck that. I mean you welcomed to say what you want, but I'm welcomed to counter you. You're a kid. i.e. - An inexperienced idiot.

You know nothing about it. Look at you.. talking like you know. At 19? I am happy to sleep next to my canines at night and no it's not at all like you say. Is it tough, yes. But let us tell you that, not the other way around. @Divergent_Integral is 38, I am 39, again who are you trying to tell boy? How do you know what it's like, or not like, at our age?

Remember, I know what it was like to be 19 and full of one's self, we all do, we did it way before you did it. So step back and learn.

Silly attitude. You know nothing. On a scale of 1-10 your accomplishment level in all things compared to us is Zero. Negative 5 in fact. If you keep this same attitude, why not make it over now, why wait 2 or 3 years?
Download 2
 
I expect you to not talk like you know what you're talking about when a 38 year old (OP) is sharing his positive outlook and hard experiences and you are 19 and confused.

Ask questions.
Jfl at thinking i am taking life advice from retards on an obsecure forum.
 
Jfl at thinking i am taking life advice from retards on an obsecure forum.
Then what are you doing here? Giving life advice?

With 8k + posts you sure do spend a lot of time on an "obscure forum with retards"

Btw, zoomer it's obscure. Not obsecure.
 
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This year, unless the world suddenly goes to shit or some horrific accident befalls me, I'll be 38. That's rather old for a member of this forum. Though I understand there's a couple of guys on here in their 40s or even 50s, the vast majority of you seem to be in your 20s.

Speaking as the oldtimer that I am, my advice to the younger guys is simply to stay alive, even if barely. If there's no absolutely urgent reason to rope, just try to cope. I won't sugarcoat things by saying that it'll all get better. Your life, unless you miraculously ascend, probably won't improve in any meaningful sense. However (and this is my main point), as you grow older and survive into your mid-to-late 30s, the emotional fallout from inceldom tends to become a bit more manageable. At least it has for me. Of course everyone's situation in life is different, but from my (admittedly limited) interactions with other older incels, I've been able to gather that for most men the experience of inceldom does tend to lose its sharpest edge with time.

There are other things in life besides sex and romance. I'm not saying that to denigrate anyone's pain or sense of bereavement. Feeling pain and grief, or anger even, are totally understandable and legitimate reactions to the experience of long-term inceldom. I simply mean it as a statement of fact. As the years pass me by, I've dived deeper and deeper into my many copes: reading widely and deeply, growing my collection of movies and tv-series, composing music, chess, cookery etc. Taken together, all these copes almost amount to a satisfying sort of existence.

My perception of my own inceldom is nowadays fluent and ambivalent. On the one hand, inceldom has been an absolutely devastating thing for me to experience, both emotionally and spiritually. No denying that. Not only shall I, in all likelihood, remain a physical cripple for the rest of my life, but due to my inceldom I'll remain a sociosexual cripple as well. Rollo Tomassi, PUA grifting bastard that he is, was quite right in saying that lacking the female touch in a man's life is like having a limb amputated. In pushing that apt metaphor a bit further, all I can say is that the acute pain of having your leg sawn off eventually passes. You will still feel occasional phantom pains and all sorts of other inconveniences in your daily life, of course. It's just that, eventually, you learn to live with it. Inceldom, unless you ascend, will always be there. But it will be in the background most of the time, instead of the constant foreground item that it once was.

Finally I'd like to say — take care, all you supreme gentlemen. I wish you the best. This will be my final post on here, at least for the time being.
Im crying, I dont want to end up like you did, But based post tho, And i feel your pain, Howewer idk what to do anymore, Thers the rope then theres my vidya...
 

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