Discussion a think tank on matriarchy needed

[thevenon]

Brocels,

we are blackpilled but our destiny is miserable especially because of the hypergamy. And the hypergamy is possible only because of the matriarchy in which we live today.

I think that we need to publish a correct definition of the matriarchy and prove that we live already in it. Almost nobody knows actually that western countries are matriarchies. If we able to persuade a large amount of men about it we can abolish it and improve our destiny.

 

[jetblack cel]

Brocels,

we are blackpilled but our destiny is miserable especially because of the hypergamy. And the hypergamy is possible only because of the matriarchy in which we live today.

I think that we need to publish a correct definition of the matriarchy and prove that we live already in it. Almost nobody knows actually that western countries are matriarchies. If we able to persuade a large amount of men about it we can abolish it and improve our destiny.

We live in a matriarchy

 

[WØLF]

You forgot the ""

 

[Deleted member 34301]

There is probably already philosophical literature on this so why don't you start there

 

[thevenon]

It is my signature that is an expression of my mind set

 

[jetblack cel]

It is my signature that is an expression of my mind set

 

[Lebensmüder]

We live in a matriarchy

 

[thevenon]

There is probably already philosophical literature on this so why don't you start there

I looked at it and I noticed that there is an error in descriptions of the matriarchy. The matriarchy must be related to the sex and the reproduction because men and women differ in their role in the reproduction. Descriptions of the matriarchy do not respect this very simple logical rule. Any description that describes the matriarchy as a social structure not related to a specific form of the reproduction and sexual life is logically mistaken.

So there is no known logically coherent definition or description of the matriarchy now. It is on us to formulate it.

I'm really serious, researchers in social sciences do not understand the matriarchy at all.

 

[Deleted member 34301]

I looked at it and I noticed that there is an error in descriptions of the matriarchy. The matriarchy must be related to the sex and the reproduction because men and women differ in their role in the reproduction. Descriptions of the matriarchy do not respect this very simple logical rule. Any description that describes the matriarchy as a social structure not related to a specific form of the reproduction and sexual life is logically mistaken.

So there is no known logically coherent definition or description of the matriarchy now. It is on us to formulate it.

I'm really serious, researchers in social sciences do not understand the matriarchy at all.

Maybe in the evolutionary psychology literature? They tend to view society from a more biological and evolutionary perspective than sociologists

 

[thevenon]

Maybe in the evolutionary psychology literature? They tend to view society from a more biological and evolutionary perspective than sociologists

Of course, this is exactly my method of thinking. But the evolutionary psychology will not help us in this case as it can only explain some phenomena. We lack a good description of the matriarchy and it must be done before any of its evolutionary study.

 

[Deleted member 34301]

Of course, this is exactly my method of thinking. But the evolutionary psychology will not help us in this case as it can only explain some phenomena. We lack a good description of the matriarchy and it must be done before any of its evolutionary study.

You are free to write it yourself as you seem to have some thoughts on it. But if you write something and don't connect it to the existing scientific debate on the topic it might look weak

 

[thevenon]

Matriarchy is a social system in which women hold the primary power positions in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property.

Matriarchy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This definition is logically unsatisfactory.

You are free to write it yourself as you seem to have some thoughts on it. But if you write something and don't connect it to the existing scientific debate on the topic it might look weak

It is connected to the existing debate.

Descriptions of the matriarchy are crazy, they do not speak about a reproduction and the sex life at all. The ideas of feminists are completely stupid as they lack basic coherence in their thinking. They ignore completely the existing relation between men and women.

 

[Overdosed]

When it comes to female relations there was always hypergamy. During the patriarchy, it was the parents' job to vet men for their daughters and legible bachelors were expected to have the 'right of passage'.

 

[thevenon]

When it comes to female relations there was always hypergamy. During the patriarchy, it was the parents' job to vet men for their daughters and legible bachelors were expected to have the 'right of passage'.

Of course, we must just formulate this type of ideas in a global definition of the patriarchy and the matriarchy. We should just extend our existing ideas.

 

[Overdosed]

Of course, we must just formulate this type of ideas in a global definition of the patriarchy and the matriarchy. We should just extend our existing ideas.

Nah. Sexbots and artificial wombs will solve most of men's problems with women's hypergamy and women will never have to worry about simps anymore.

 

[thevenon]

Nah. Sexbots and artificial wombs will solve most of men's problems with women's hypergamy and women will never have to worry about simps anymore.

I understand they every member of this forum including me wants to rope. But we are stronger and more intelligent than foids. We should try to destroy their ideology before we rope happily.

 

[Deleted member 35110]

We live in a matriarchy

 

[Overdosed]

I understand they every member of this forum including me wants to rope. But we are stronger and more intelligent than foids. We should try to destroy their ideology before we rope happily.

We wouldn't have to destroy anything if most of them are irrelevant to men's lives with sexbots in their disposal.

 

[thevenon]

We wouldn't have to destroy anything if most of them are irrelevant to men's lives with sexbots in their disposal.

I agree, a good sexbot will be always much better than any real foid. This sexbot should be produced as an artificial biological creature with a completely modified foid's brain. The biggest issue of any man including incels is an unsatisfactory operating foid's brain.

A real foid has a very long maturing compared to other species and the only result of this process is the learning how to combat men and produce other miseries to them. If we can accelerate the maturation speed of a foid's body we can create a new biological creature much more friendly to men including incels.

 

[Overdosed]

I agree, a good sexbot will be always much better than any real foid. This sexbot should be produced as an artificial biological creature with a completely modified foid's brain. The biggest issue of any man including incels is an unsatisfactory operating foid's brain.

A real foid has a very long maturing compared to other species and the only result of this process is the learning how to combat men and produce other miseries to them. If we can accelerate the maturation speed of a foid's body we can create a new biological creature much more friendly to men including incels.

 

[based_meme]

You forgot the ""

 

[GluePrittCel]

Brocels,

we are blackpilled but our destiny is miserable especially because of the hypergamy. And the hypergamy is possible only because of the matriarchy in which we live today.

I think that we need to publish a correct definition of the matriarchy and prove that we live already in it. Almost nobody knows actually that western countries are matriarchies. If we able to persuade a large amount of men about it we can abolish it and improve our destiny.

Feminism is socialism.
Socialism bases itself apex fallacies. Feminists want to be like the richest men. Foids between 20-30 have a higher wage than men.
Feminists have lost credibility long time ago. For that reason is that now the war is about races. The BML Movement is a great example of how cultural Marxists spreaders have divided the West in many pseudo-socialist movements. If one fail the others wil work.

 

[FlyFace]

I think that we need to publish a correct definition of the matriarchy and prove that we live already in it. Almost nobody knows actually that western countries are matriarchies. If we able to persuade a large amount of men about it we can abolish it and improve our destiny.

The only problem we have is correctly and scientifically defining it in an age of misinformation and misandry.

 

[thevenon]

The only problem we have is correctly and scientifically defining it in an age of misinformation and misandry.

It is not so complicated, I have not just enough time to do it alone.

 

[RetardedChinlet]

Brocels,

we are blackpilled but our destiny is miserable especially because of the hypergamy. And the hypergamy is possible only because of the matriarchy in which we live today.

I think that we need to publish a correct definition of the matriarchy and prove that we live already in it. Almost nobody knows actually that western countries are matriarchies. If we able to persuade a large amount of men about it we can abolish it and improve our destiny.

Don't forget that as long as the top of the iceberg like CEOs and politicians are male majority, the avg. normie will think we live in a pAtRiArChY.

Never mind the fact that 80% of men are worthless trash whereas 90% of foids can get paid for fucking photographing themselves.

 

[thevenon]

Don't forget that as long as the top of the iceberg like CEOs and politicians are male majority, the avg. normie will think we live in a pAtRiArChY.

Never mind the fact that 80% of men are worthless trash whereas 90% of foids can get paid for fucking photographing themselves.

I do not agree. The problem is that nobody has described and defined the matriarchy as the only known true matriarchy is the society Moso in China. An amusing fact : some people describe the sexual behavior of these foids as modern.

The kingdom of women: the society where a man is never the boss

It’s a place where women rule, marriage doesn’t exist and everything follows the maternal bloodline. But is it as good for women as it sounds – and how long can it last?

www.theguardian.com

walking marriage = Tinder

Mosuo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[slavcel11]

We don't live in matriarchy, just the absense of a proper (and any) patriarchy. This is the natural state of society when it's left to its own ends without enforced monogamy, patriarchy and shit and the state patronizes foids.

 

[thevenon]

We don't live in matriarchy, just the absense of a proper (and any) patriarchy. This is the natural state of society when it's left to its own ends without enforced monogamy, patriarchy and shit and the state patronizes foids.

Men control the sexual life of foids in patriarchy by enforced monogamy or marriage. The sexual life of foids is not controlled in the matriarchy. This is the only good definition of the patriarchy and matriarchy.

The official definition is different. So we must propose a definition based on the family and sexual life to replace a definition based on the social position.

 

[RetardedChinlet]

We don't live in matriarchy, just the absense of a proper (and any) patriarchy. This is the natural state of society when it's left to its own ends without enforced monogamy, patriarchy and shit and the state patronizes foids.

The way legislation handles divorce, paternity, abortion, sexual assault and such makes it a kind of matriarchy. This varies by country though.

 

[slavcel11]

Men control the sexual life of foids in patriarchy by enforced monogamy or marriage. The sexual life of foids is not controlled in the matriarchy. This is the only good definition of the patriarchy and matriarchy.

Patriarchy/matriarchy (to me) is about who owns his family and children. Yes we are closer to matriarchy today than to patriarchy, because foids have the privilege to start families and give birth on their own while men can't do that. But it is still not matriarchy.

The way legislation handles divorce, paternity, abortion, sexual assault and such makes it a kind of matriarchy. This varies by country though.

yes, as I said we are moving closer and closer towards matriarchy, but it's still not close enough to what patriarchy was in its time, if it ever existed.

 

[thevenon]

Patriarchy/matriarchy (to me) is about who owns his family and children. Yes we are closer to matriacrhy today than to patriarchy, because foids have the privilege to start families and give birth on their own while men can't do that. But it is still not matriarchy.

Exactly. I agree with you 100 %. I think that all incels share this opinion. But it is not the official definition and description of the patriarchy so we must propose our own definition. I'm sure that you can define it without me. Just do it !

This definition is very important for our struggle against the hypergamy. We must explain the world as it is really. As nobody has never described it or done this work it is on us to do it.

We are probably the only social group that understands the true nature of the matriarchy.

 

[Black Soul]

I'm a think tank

 

[thevenon]

I'm a think tank

Good. So prepare some drafts about the patriarchy and the matriarchy to discuss. As we share same opinions we should be able to prepare together some good document. I think that all incels should discuss this document if they are interested.

 

[Black Soul]

Good. So prepare some drafts about the patriarchy and the matriarchy to discuss. As we share same opinions we should be able to prepare together some good document. I think that all incels should discuss this document if they are interested.

I'm busy. And what will I gain in the end?!

 

[thevenon]

I'm busy. And what will I gain in the end?!

the celebrity

 

[Black Soul]

the celebrity

 

[thevenon]

also the proud, the social position
maybe some PhD female student will contact you to discuss about these ideas
and maybe you will even ascend with her
it does not require a lot of work and if you become a big celebrity it can help you to ascend
anyway we have no other hope to ascend
at least some foid will talk to you